Thoughts on running a FASS & eliminating stock cannister filter
Personally I wouldn't remove the filter. For 1 reason, neither the AD or FASS meet the f/w separation requirements that Dodge has put out. Unless you add another f/w separation somewhere...
Dodge specs 95% water removal on CR's... http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2006/14-007-06.htm
The FS19768 used for f/w sep by FASS and AD is rated for 50% free water removal and 0% emulsified water removal... And its also only rated at 19.82 GPH.
The FF5613 used by AD for 3 micron filtration is actually a 5 micron absolute filter, and 94% at 2 microns, and is rated at 59.97 GPH.
So you can get the same filtration and better f/w separation by simply using a PF7977 in the OE canister... You just don't have the flow...
The OE filters are also rated at 59.97 GPH, so if you have the proper high flow fittings in the OE filter bowl there should be no additional restriction as the OE filter is rated for the same flow as the fuel filter on the FASS/AD.
And the thread pitch/ gasket size of the f/w filter are not common... I have yet to find a replacement.
Dodge specs 95% water removal on CR's... http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2006/14-007-06.htm
The FS19768 used for f/w sep by FASS and AD is rated for 50% free water removal and 0% emulsified water removal... And its also only rated at 19.82 GPH.
The FF5613 used by AD for 3 micron filtration is actually a 5 micron absolute filter, and 94% at 2 microns, and is rated at 59.97 GPH.
So you can get the same filtration and better f/w separation by simply using a PF7977 in the OE canister... You just don't have the flow...
The OE filters are also rated at 59.97 GPH, so if you have the proper high flow fittings in the OE filter bowl there should be no additional restriction as the OE filter is rated for the same flow as the fuel filter on the FASS/AD.
And the thread pitch/ gasket size of the f/w filter are not common... I have yet to find a replacement.
Personally I wouldn't remove the filter. For 1 reason, neither the AD or FASS meet the f/w separation requirements that Dodge has put out. Unless you add another f/w separation somewhere...
Dodge specs 95% water removal on CR's... http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2006/14-007-06.htm
The FS19768 used for f/w sep by FASS and AD is rated for 50% free water removal and 0% emulsified water removal... And its also only rated at 19.82 GPH.
The FF5613 used by AD for 3 micron filtration is actually a 5 micron absolute filter, and 94% at 2 microns, and is rated at 59.97 GPH.
So you can get the same filtration and better f/w separation by simply using a PF7977 in the OE canister... You just don't have the flow...
The OE filters are also rated at 59.97 GPH, so if you have the proper high flow fittings in the OE filter bowl there should be no additional restriction as the OE filter is rated for the same flow as the fuel filter on the FASS/AD.
And the thread pitch/ gasket size of the f/w filter are not common... I have yet to find a replacement.
Dodge specs 95% water removal on CR's... http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2006/14-007-06.htm
The FS19768 used for f/w sep by FASS and AD is rated for 50% free water removal and 0% emulsified water removal... And its also only rated at 19.82 GPH.
The FF5613 used by AD for 3 micron filtration is actually a 5 micron absolute filter, and 94% at 2 microns, and is rated at 59.97 GPH.
So you can get the same filtration and better f/w separation by simply using a PF7977 in the OE canister... You just don't have the flow...
The OE filters are also rated at 59.97 GPH, so if you have the proper high flow fittings in the OE filter bowl there should be no additional restriction as the OE filter is rated for the same flow as the fuel filter on the FASS/AD.
And the thread pitch/ gasket size of the f/w filter are not common... I have yet to find a replacement.
Um yes...now we are talking...
No wonder I am having trouble pushing 150 g/hr through an OEM filter...or even my Fleetgaurd. I need to look up its specs.
I do feel that 1/2" inlet outlet port size is a good thing when compared to 1/8" OEM ports...lol.
No wonder I am having trouble pushing 150 g/hr through an OEM filter...or even my Fleetgaurd. I need to look up its specs.
I do feel that 1/2" inlet outlet port size is a good thing when compared to 1/8" OEM ports...lol.
Personally I wouldn't remove the filter.
The FS19768 used for f/w sep by FASS and AD is rated for 50% free water removal and 0% emulsified water removal... And its also only rated at 19.82 GPH.
So you can get the same filtration and better f/w separation by simply using a PF7977 in the OE canister... You just don't have the flow...
The FS19768 used for f/w sep by FASS and AD is rated for 50% free water removal and 0% emulsified water removal... And its also only rated at 19.82 GPH.
So you can get the same filtration and better f/w separation by simply using a PF7977 in the OE canister... You just don't have the flow...
Good reasons for most to keep the OEM filter assembly intact - but I wouldn't be so quick to throw the lack of emulsified water removal under the proverbial diesel bus... some proven efficiency (& performance) advantages with it, although injector tip longevity may be compromised.
IMO, air removal trumps water removal, so it was a no-brainer to install an appropriate aftermarket lift pump - and I had to bin the OEM filter housing in order to package our intake manifold.
Based on what Bosch/Dodge recommend and implement on the engine they seem to be more worried about water removal than air removal...
Now if the Raptor and HPFP only did air removal as well.
Now if the Raptor and HPFP only did air removal as well.



