As said in title. Here's the skinny. I have recently moved to Colorado Springs CO from Phoenix Az. So went from 1200" to 5000-6000 some were in there. Truck all checks out good filter ext. W/ Smarty it will black cloud like a freight train and lug at same time. Big lag at start up throttle hence "the cloud" I recently returned to AZ to final move up to CO and truck was back to it's old snappy self very little black cloud, had to work for it. Now back in CO and same mother of a cloud.
Not sure if this is what it is in higher altitudes or what but it's getting real old and the only thing that seems to help is when Jr is off which well bites the big one.
As you see in my sig truck is set good for a Jr. Or do I need to looking to a S06 for more adjust-ability? Got a trans to handle it. Or is no programmer or other product able to handle altitude changes very well.
Thanks for anything, not wanting to start any c--p just looking for help to minimize "the cloud" and I mean can't see behind you cloud and pour throttle response.
PS TQ/TM setting make no differance believe me I'm trying

 

Elevation shouldn't matter. I live at about 4000' and drove to San Diego, CA which is at sea level and never touched my Smarty settings.

Have you updated to the latest 5.14B software?

 

Have you got it set for more timing, less timing, or stock timing?

 

Welcome to CS - you'll love it here. Altitude here is right around 6,000' ASL, depending on which part of town you're in.

You can mostly get rid of the black smoke by playing with the Jr settings - particularly the timing. I get some smoke if I mash the pedal and really move. Otherwise it's not much at all.

 

You think it is bad in town wait until you are hauling a trailer up a twisty curvey at 8, 9 or 10k elev. or when it is 100degs. I have a 2nd gen truck so it may very well be different but with my setup changing levels of the smarty does not do a whole lot for it. Now I have not upgraded the software in quite some time but on a 2nd gen there is not much to modify on them anyway. I have found it is all about proper pressure and timing of said pressure on the go pedal. With a third gen and the various settings you can play with I would certainly download the latest and greatest software and work with it and see what happens.

While not trying to dispute what a previous poster said altitude does make a difference even with the turbo while it is substantially better than the older gas vehicles that cant compensate the turbo definitely takes a bit more to spool and the higher you go the worse it gets. Don't get me wrong I have never had a power problem in the mtns, however smoke and lag definitely go up with the elevation. I travel a fair amount and have found the following from sea level to somewhere in the 3-4k elevation range is where I start to notice the elevation or should say the truck seems to notice it a bit. Then from there up until around 7-7500k elev it seems the same beyond approx 7500elev I notice another decrease or increase depending on how you look at it. Then above 8500 or 9k it gets a bit worse but above that you are well beyond any hope of controlling smoke while towing the twisty curveys and their inherent slowdowns and speedups (I am not talking I-70 here but darn near any other road up there). I am sure in reality it is much more linear than that but those are the approximate elevations I notice the differences in my 2nd gen truck and its particular setup.

By the way welcome to CO hopefully you will find it enjoyable and a nice place to live.

 

I've been messing with TM and TQ TM now is on 4 which is just above stock can't get much lower, TQ on 2 and now on SW1 and it's the best I can get to minimize the plum. Use to run SW3 TQ4 TM2 on 5.14B software great in AZ quick black then minimal haze on moderate to heavy throttle here in CO fogging mosquitoes. Hope when ever UDC comes out I can tailor it. Other wise maybe looking into EFI live as of what I have read very minimal smoke, or sell truck. I'm not 16 anymore and don't like image truck is giving off.

 

What about trying TQ 1? Maybe going to stock timing will decrease your smoke. I have the Sr and with TM 2 (most timing) TQ1 RP0 I have no smoke if I ease into the throttle on levels 1-6. Of course I'm at about 900 feet elevation max and have the 250 HP motor so that makes a big difference.

 

I drive round trip from the SF Bay Area over Donner Summit every week (elevation 300' to about 7300') and I never see any difference in smoke. It's always very minimal except when you stomp on it. To be honest I'm not exactly sure what setting the JR is on other than the shop I bought it from said he put me at full power (99 POD). It's been a great improvement on how the truck runs so I've never messed with it. I added it at this shops recommendation to help with injector fouling I had been getting, and it's been about 75K and I've not had any injector issues since.

 

Elevation, & high temps will definitely make more smoke. Simply air density. But it sounds like you may be having a boost leak, or maybe a bent waste gate rod, etc. With the truck in my Sig I will get a little have if I get on it a little @ sea level, but when I was going through Co, & Nm in 100+ temps it would coal train leaving a stop, & hase constantly on the hwy. Back to normal once I got home. Less timing is really the only way to help. Spool up is faster with lower timing hence less smoke.

 

So TM 2 is the most timimg and TM1 is the least???

 

Iirc it depends on which software version you have. I think the newest version has the same timing settings as my tnt which tm-2 is the most timing. I run tm-4 when I'm hauling heavy. There is a noticeable difference in spool up between tm-2 , & tm-4. I get less low/midrange smoke on tm-4 but less on the top with tm-2. But there will always be smoke when the turbo isn't spooled up. When i was going through Nm on tm-4 there was still a lot of smoke when leaving a stop light but it did clean up for the most part pretty fast. Never really went away tho.

 

To add what bigwheels said, if it's 5.13B version the timing lowest to highest is 1,4,3,2 with 1 being stock. If it's 5.13A it's 1,2,3,4 with stock being one. I think 3 on both versions is the same as the default. When you plug your Smarty in, it will tell you which version you have.

 

yeah Mine is 5.14B so what would that order be? lowest to highest??

 

I meant 5.14. I have Sr. so I get the versions confused. 5.14B is the latest version so it would be lowest to highest 1,4,3,2 with 1 being stock.

 

probably,maybe,i love it.