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Should I get the 2" leveling ket or do a 4.5 or 6" lift?

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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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VikingDiesel,
Yes, I have the 4.10''s already and the tranny is an Auto. So I think I'm ahead of the game a bit.

I agree, the 35's will require so much less to achieve my desired results.
I can go cheap and just add some 2" front spacers (minumum required) all the way up to spending some serious money adding the strength/lift of a decent shock/spring lift kit. I mean, I found the Trxus tires online for 210. each and new coils and shocks, etc. can't be that much, less than a grand I'm guessing. So for around 2500, the outcome will be a more capable and much better looking truck. Even with the addition of Bushwacker Pocket flares and Millenium Running Boards, I think the look will still be proportionate. And Awsome!

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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fruitman
...and new coils and shocks, etc. can't be that much, less than a grand I'm guessing.
The KORE leving kit comes with a new set of coils, a pair Bilstein shocks for the front and sway bar drop down spacers and sell for $569. Bilstein 5100 series shocks for the rear can be had for $79 each.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by VikingDiesel
Well, im planing to put between 33s to 35s on my stock wheel. NO off-road driving, just better looks and a bit more ground clearence. I was maybe thinking of just doing a 2" or possible a 4", any bigger would need bigger tires which I dont want, even though I would be slapping a TST on it soon.
well if you do 33's leveling kit is more than enough. 35's is is more about wheel offset and what look you like. I hate rubbing so I like a bit of clearance so I would proably do 3-4" with 35's even. now if you stay with 8" wheel with factory offset you proababaly can get away with 35's and leveling kit.

if you look in my gallery for example a alot of people will say you can run a 37" with a 4" lift but I think the truck looks just right with 6" lift. so you could run a 3-4" lift and a 35 and have about the sam tire to lift ratio as I have right now. some like the truck to sit right down on th tires I like there to be a bit more body clearance so you never rub under any condition.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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well i know im comparing apples to oranges here. but i had a 1996 F-350 with a 460 v-8 and a 3:55 rear and it use to mud bog and run fine with a set of 40" super swampers. W ould think its less of an issue with our trucks as the cummins puts out at least 200 ft/lbs more torque. just thought id offer my .02 since i have actually been in a similar situation.

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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by checkster
well i know im comparing apples to oranges here. but i had a 1996 F-350 with a 460 v-8 and a 3:55 rear and it use to mud bog and run fine with a set of 40" super swampers. W ould think its less of an issue with our trucks as the cummins puts out at least 200 ft/lbs more torque. just thought id offer my .02 since i have actually been in a similar situation.

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yeah it is no issue at all really. the only issue I have noticed on 37's is not power that is fine. the juice more than compensates for the tire size. the torque converter does not look up till about 56-57mph with 3.73's though.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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I was talking to a few different companies and I was told that SKYJACKER is the way to go when it comes to Dodge trucks??? True? and that TUFF COUNTRY isnt really that good and that the qauality sucks and will ride worse than stock. So this is what I looked at:

$430 + (4) Skyjacker nitro shocks at $40 each= $590


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Good DEAL?? GOOD STUFF??

Its a 2.5" lift (leveling kit) but it also adds a leaf, so im not sure how much is add's in the rear??
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by VikingDiesel
I was talking to a few different companies and I was told that SKYJACKER is the way to go when it comes to Dodge trucks??? True? and that TUFF COUNTRY isnt really that good and that the qauality sucks and will ride worse than stock. So this is what I looked at:

$430 + (4) Skyjacker nitro shocks at $40 each= $590


LINK

Good DEAL?? GOOD STUFF??

Its a 2.5" lift (leveling kit) but it also adds a leaf, so im not sure how much is add's in the rear??
This thread is getting to be

You don't need lower CA's with a leveling kit and the rear add a leafs are gonna rattle your teeth loose. Anybody who's gone from D25 front springs to a custom coil always wonders why they didn't do it sooner. Skyjacker twin tube shocks, nitro or not, are junk.

If you don't believe me, I'll go take some pictures of my SJ 4.5" kit that's sitting in my junk pile with all my other junk parts. I even have a nice set of faded pink 4.5" coils that have sagged down to about 2.5" and a full set of SJ Nitro shocks that are leaking oil.

The only bright side is that if I hadn't had so many problems with the SJ suspension and death wobble, I wouldn't have the custom suspension I have now.

Get the custom coils and Bilsteins and be done with it....
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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You don't need lower CA's with a leveling kit and the rear add a leafs are gonna rattle your teeth loose. Anybody who's gone from D25 front springs to a custom coil always wonders why they didn't do it sooner. Skyjacker twin tube shocks, nitro or not, are junk.

If you don't believe me, I'll go take some pictures of my SJ 4.5" kit that's sitting in my junk pile with all my other junk parts. I even have a nice set of faded pink 4.5" coils that have sagged down to about 2.5" and a full set of SJ Nitro shocks that are leaking oil.

The only bright side is that if I hadn't had so many problems with the SJ suspension and death wobble, I wouldn't have the custom suspension I have now.

Get the custom coils and Bilsteins and be done with it....
wow.....OK, so all in all:

Leave the rear stock height, BUY (4) Bilstein shocks and (2) coils from http://coilsprings.com/ ??

1.what size bilsteins do I get?
2.What size coils do I get?
3.Will these setup eliminate DW?
4.Is this setup just a 2" leveling kit in the front and stock height in the back?
5.So I should leave the control arms and everything else stock, the (4) shocks and the (2) coils is all I will need and nothing else?
6.Can I also get (1) bilstein steering stabilizer?

Lastly, Can anyone post some pics with this setup??
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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I have been talking to coilspring.com about getting front coil springs but I can't decide on 2" or 2 1/2" and spring rate. Any sugestions ? I leaning towards 2 1/2" with stock spring rate at 460-480. Thanks
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cjones42
I have been talking to coilspring.com about getting front coil springs but I can't decide on 2" or 2 1/2" and spring rate. Any sugestions ? I leaning towards 2 1/2" with stock spring rate at 460-480. Thanks
How much for the pair of springs?
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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All you'll need is the coils and shocks. I'd recommend a 420lb rate (yes, softer), +2" ride height and IIRC, the Bilstein PN is BE5-6681H5 front/6647H5 rear. Double check the part numbers, should be for 0-2" lift.

Springs will run you around $220-250 shipped, shocks are around $80 each.

You don't need a steering stabilizer, all they do is mask problems. If you have DW, you'll need to look at the track bar and tie rod ends. More front axle caster will get rid of DW.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Man, all you guys are great! I've always been a fan of Bilstiens and what I want to run. I like Kore too!

ptgarcia - sounds like a package that wont set me back too far and accomplish my goal!!!! Looks like 315's for me dudes! Now to just pick out the best one. One that I am leaning towards is the new Mickey Thompson, Baja Radial MTZ. I'm pretty sure I can squeeze that sucker on my 8" rim but the manufacturer won't list the backspacing because it's not reccomended. Maybe a new set of rims are in order too. See, now were getting outta hand again!!!!!! hahahahaha
Later Dudes, thanks again!
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowhand
All you'll need is the coils and shocks. I'd recommend a 420lb rate (yes, softer), +2" ride height and IIRC, the Bilstein PN is BE5-6681H5 front/6647H5 rear. Double check the part numbers, should be for 0-2" lift.

Springs will run you around $220-250 shipped, shocks are around $80 each.

You don't need a steering stabilizer, all they do is mask problems. If you have DW, you'll need to look at the track bar and tie rod ends. More front axle caster will get rid of DW.
OK, once more:

Get the Bilstein 5100

http://www.bilstein.com/offroad.php

whats the difference between the pre-loaded and 5125??

Get the coils and NOT the spacers, WHY?

or even some of this stuff:

http://www.jackit.com/dodge/dodge_leveling.htm
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by VikingDiesel
OK, once more:

Get the Bilstein 5100

http://www.bilstein.com/offroad.php

whats the difference between the pre-loaded and 5125??

Get the coils and NOT the spacers, WHY?

or even some of this stuff:

http://www.jackit.com/dodge/dodge_leveling.htm
the theory behind coils and not spacers is the spacer is a weaker point and they add no aditional travel. you have those three bolt that hold it in place and then the spring into the spacer. this leave a weaker mechanical area than just putting the spring in the bucket and also you only have stock travel.

I will say though if all you do is mostly drive pavement you will never have a spacer issue. like I said in previous posts it all how you use the truck and if the stock ride is okay and your not going to abuse it at all the spacer will work fine. the 4x4 snobs will tell you they are crap but they will do there job. they are right in the sense though if you beat on your truck you could have an issue with them. you won't catch a trophy truck with spacers on it.
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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I would avoid the welded steel spacers. The one I have seen were plain junk, although they were not for the Ram but the Nissan Titan (I had one before my MegaCab with a custom suspension). If you're stuck on a spacer, go with a machined billet spacer. I have seen a couple for the Ram, one made by Cage Offroad, that look good in the pics, but I haven't found a single person who has actually used one.

The best bet is to spring (pun intended ) for a custom set of coils. They'll cost you a bit more, but what's an extra $100 spanned over the life of your truck?
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