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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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No Gauges What Chip is Best?

I have a flo pro muffler and a true flo tube from my air breather unit. What chip could I use without tapping the manifold for gauges? Just for some extra pulling power and a little juice every once awhile. Thanks lmk
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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You should really have a EGT (pyro) gauge. Even in stock configuations these trucks can get hot. I guess you could go with a Edge EZ or something very small but I would get gauges before chips or programmers.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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i used to hit 1500* with an EZ, intake, and exhaust. Gauges gauges gauges!

bullydog on tow and performace does stay very cool....but still gauges!
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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superchip is a pretty cost efficient way to make pretty good power. the only down fall is that you cant adjust it on the fly. also the designers work at keeping your egst below 1400 max, so that not to bad if only for a sec. but along w/ all the others on here, at least do the pyro. i was shutting off my truck way to soon before i installed and have loved it ever since

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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i run the triple dog on anything I want tow, perf, and extreme - all in moderation of course! (no gauges)
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Bombing step #1 - gauges.

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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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A lot of guys run the Superchips Flashpaq with very little to no other mods whatsoever. They're pretty reasonable for the power they provide.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by red ram 1
I have a flo pro muffler and a true flo tube from my air breather unit. What chip could I use without tapping the manifold for gauges? Just for some extra pulling power and a little juice every once awhile. Thanks lmk
I ran the Diablo Power Puck for 1 year with no guages. Youd be fine with it. especially on the 60 horse setting. You can switch it on the fly between stock, 60 and 90 horse power. I sold it to my father in law and he runs it on his 03 with no guages - of course he drives like a grandpa

Here is where youll get in trouble if you cant monitor an egt guage -
1.loaded heavy in bed or towing trailer and pulling a large hill for 2-3 minutes trying to stay up at 70 mph or more.
2. Drag racing everyone you see for longer distances than 1/2 mile.
(dragging here and there for short distances wont burn you down)

Of course If I were you I would just go ahead and install an egt - if it was only to monitor when to shut the truck off after it goes below 400 degrees.
(like someone else already said)
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by redstreak
A lot of guys run the Superchips Flashpaq with very little to no other mods whatsoever. They're pretty reasonable for the power they provide.
very true. a guy from another forum runs a 14.5 in the quarter with nothing but a superchips flashpaq....bone stock automatic truck.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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I have a Banks 6 gun that is about to come off my truck because it keeps everything very conservative. The highest i have gotten my EGT is 1100* and the most boost I have seen is 25 PSI. I have gauges, and I want to be able to monitor and control things myself, not having a box detune for me and then fire back up.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Get the gauges.
Your going to cook that '05 with out them if you tow anything with some weight. It does not take very much go pedal pressure on a hill to hit 1300*.
Did it quite frequently myself before Smarty showed up.
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Old Sep 6, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Get the gauges.
Your going to cook that '05 with out them if you tow anything with some weight. It does not take very much go pedal pressure on a hill to hit 1300*.
Did it quite frequently myself before Smarty showed up.
If the mighty cummins is so fragile that you can melt it down in stock form simply because you haven't installed an EGT guage...why are people still buying the POS? Its not that fragile. You are thinking that 1300 degrees is the failure point of....what exactly?

No, they are not that fragile. Get a gauge for the bling factor or if you are running large mods...but everyone needs gauges before anything else? I think not. If a stock truck will melt down towing within its stated limits....there is something seriously wrong with the engineering of that truck.

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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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If the mighty cummins is so fragile that you can melt it down in stock form simply because you haven't installed an EGT guage...why are people still buying the POS? Its not that fragile. You are thinking that 1300 degrees is the failure point of....what exactly?

No, they are not that fragile. Get a gauge for the bling factor or if you are running large mods...but everyone needs gauges before anything else? I think not. If a stock truck will melt down towing within its stated limits....there is something seriously wrong with the engineering of that truck.

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They wont burn down everyone is just over-reacting.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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melting down

Originally Posted by billindenver
If the mighty cummins is so fragile that you can melt it down in stock form simply because you haven't installed an EGT guage...why are people still buying the POS? Its not that fragile. You are thinking that 1300 degrees is the failure point of....what exactly?

No, they are not that fragile. Get a gauge for the bling factor or if you are running large mods...but everyone needs gauges before anything else? I think not. If a stock truck will melt down towing within its stated limits....there is something seriously wrong with the engineering of that truck.

Bill
I was just thinking the same thing. I just bought a 05 Dodge 4x4 QC and after reading posts like this I'm questioning the wisdom of my purchase. I'm keeping it stock until the warranty runs out, but if I have to put gauges on to watch temps while I'm towing I think I might go back to gas!!!
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by snowmanx
I was just thinking the same thing. I just bought a 05 Dodge 4x4 QC and after reading posts like this I'm questioning the wisdom of my purchase. I'm keeping it stock until the warranty runs out, but if I have to put gauges on to watch temps while I'm towing I think I might go back to gas!!!
It wont happen, just use common sense. Even if you dont use common sense the cummins will take alot of abuse. Had 5 of them. Never any problems from the motors with extreme heavy duty abuse. Read my mods I use them in extreme conditions.
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