I have the edge juice on my 2004.5 CTD. I am going to be stacking the MP-8 with it. Question is, how do I plug them both in? Don't they both hook into the same plugs? If so, which one plugs in first? If I have researched correctly, the Juice on my model is only timing and duration so stacking the mp-8 (which is pressure) should work. Am I correct on this? My future plans are for the Glacier and big line kit, 5" turbo back, and eventually a different turbo.

 

mp8 into the map sensor, then the Juice. mp8 also goes into rail pressure sensor. Don't run it past about 40% without having a RP gauge. Once you get the GDP pump and big line kit, exhaust, and turbo, you can do the HOT upgrade to the Juice and that will get you your 500hp. I dynoed at 502/1150 with the above list. Turbo was an Aroura 3000.

Of course you will destroy a stock tranny at that power level. You definately are going to need to spend quite a bit of cash to get to 500hp safely.

 

Sorry, I forgot to mention that it is now hot flashed. Dyno'd 397 before hot flash with only juice and intake.

 

In that case, you won't gain anything adding the mp8 until after you do the GDP stuff. You will just drain the rail. The pump should be your next step - well actually the tranny, but...you know.

 

will I need to modify the cp-3, or just the glacier and big line kit? I am getting the quad rail pressure gauge as well so that I can keep an eye on rail and fuel pressures.

 

might be a silly question, or just not thinking straight, but what does the GDP stand for.

 

stacking two pressure boxes?? I would also add to the list a 2 micron fuel filter and maybe injectors when you start cracking tips and bodies.

 

Does "hot flashing" the juice add pressure? If I remember right the juice on the 04.5' is timing and duration only, right? The mp-8 is a pressure box. Will I be "double stacking" the pressure? If so, what is a better route to go, smarty or another programmer?

 

Glacier Diesel Products!

 

On mine the HOT Juice/Attitude did not add pressure. I stacked the EZ for pressure and it was a very good stack. The MP-8 should stack well. You will probably need the lift pump upgrade to keep fuel pressure up. I ran with FASS on stock cp3 and did not drain the rail with the HOT Juice/EZ stack. I can drain the rail very easy with the TST/EZ/Smarty stack.

 

I would agree with the 2 micron filter set up, but where are you getting two pressure boxes? The mp8 would be his only pressure box.

 

I didn't think the juice hot added pressure. I was actually looking for the ez, but ran across the mp-8. It probably will in the long run add more power than the ez, I just liked the idea of being brand loyal. I have the quad rail pressure gauge on the way. I'm not going to install the mp-8 until I have the rp gauge in, that way I can keep an eye on things. The Glacier is next on the list.

 

Hot Juice only adds pressure on 03-04 trucks

 

I ran the juice on my 05 with a power pup. they seemed to stack pretty well together. I ran the juice on low settings with pup on performance until I wanted to run someone

 

I have the juice w/attitude on my 2004.5. It runs great. I just installed the Quad rail pressure gauge and the mp-8 and things went south. I installed the r/p gauge first. Started the truck and it sounded like rattling like the timing was very advanced, r/p read around 25k at idle. I shut truck off and unhooked r/p and rehooked to make sure I had things right. This time truck ran right and read around 6k at idle and 18k revving the engine up. I then installed the mp-8. Truck started up and ran like crap. It surged at idle like it was running on 3 cylinders. When you gave it gas, the rpm's shot up to around 3k and hung for a second or two. The truck only ran for maybe 30 seconds then died. The quad read about 25k on pressure at idle. I unplugged the mp-8 and restarted the truck. The r/p reads around 6k at idle and up to around 18k when you rev the motor up. I then tried unhooking the juice and just running mp-8, same bad running results. Truck seems to run fine without the mp-8. What kind of normal r/p readings should I be seeing? Why did truck rattle the first time I hooked up r/p gauge? What could be wrong with mp-8?