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My Great Depression Revisited Budget Transmission Build Up

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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Does your builder recommend a Valve Body? I see it's not on your list. Over the years of reading what just about all of the tranny guys have to say, a VB goes hand in hand with a new converter for increased line pressure.

Now on to what I am doing and its relative cost:
1) Billet Single Disc Convert from a manufacturer here in town that makes hundreds of thousands of converters each year. Talked with a few people that his converters locally as well as the owner of the company. Great rep, he custom cuts his own stators and sells them to other companies all over the US. Also has billet apply piston. He explained that the single disc helps to alleviate the need for a billet input, at least for me and my driving style. He also makes triples, but said he would never run a triple without a billet input. Cost $600

2) TransGo shift kit, my builder said he's had good luck with them and that the new 48re kit is very complete and well put together. Cost $70

3) Tool Steel Band Anchor and Band Strut. My Builder recommended them and I think Goerend does too. Cheap insurance for poor factory parts. $50 for both

4) Sonnax Billet intermediate servo cover with machined o ring groove. Again builder recommended. $21

5) Mag hytec pan, not a necessity, but I picked one up used for $175 so I couldn't pass.

6) Lastly I took the plunge and bought one of the PRW platinum flexplates. Builder and Converter manufacturer said this was a judgment call on my part. Neither like the stock one, but also understood I was on a budget and neither liked the price of the billet ones. So I'm gonna be the guinea pig for these. I called and spoke with PRW rep and he assured me they were of the highest quality and that if I had any problems they would be taken care of. Cost $140

7) Cost to remove trans install above parts and replace and fluid etc. $500
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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I'm doing the transgo kit in lieu of a valve body. The transgo kits are pretty advanced and my builder said he's had good luck with them. If you look on here at some of the transgo kits there are a few people that like them better than some of the VB from a few of the big name guys.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 2003Ram
Does your builder recommend a Valve Body? I see it's not on your list. Over the years of reading what just about all of the tranny guys have to say, a VB goes hand in hand with a new converter for increased line pressure.
Its a matter of trust in your builder to do a shift kit and other mods. A custome VB is just a shift and the builders ideas of what needs to be addressed. You can get all or most of the same features from a shift kit and a few tweaks.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by no_6_oh_no
Its a matter of trust in your builder to do a shift kit and other mods. A custome VB is just a shift and the builders ideas of what needs to be addressed. You can get all or most of the same features from a shift kit and a few tweaks.
Yeah that is what I'm hoping for. We'll see how it turns out.

If I were buying a converter from one of the big companies I would plan to buy their VB as well, but since I'm not I feel confident in going with the transgo kit.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by yelloz28
Yeah that is what I'm hoping for. We'll see how it turns out.

If I were buying a converter from one of the big companies I would plan to buy their VB as well, but since I'm not I feel confident in going with the transgo kit.
I completly agree with you I have a Goerend installer working on my truck in about 2 weeks doing just the transgo kit with the accesories you have listed and deep dish tranny pan.
When i get to 100,000 i'll switch over to all Goerend stuff since he has been such a big help even down to providing advice on the Transgo kit to the installer working on my truck. These kits can be basically the same thing as a built valve body work if done correctly.
I forgot the post but it was a long time ago someone who had a BD VB, HTS and in the begining and the Transgo had more line pressure than the BD but not too far off from the HTS.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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Also has billet apply piston
This may be a dumb question, but what exactly is the difference between a "billet apply piston" and a regluar one? How does it have more holding power?
Perhaps I need a 101 on converters
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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The way that he explained it to me was that the apply piston in the stock converter doesn't always apply pressure evenly, so in lock up you aren't getting a full 100% contact between the discs, you might be at 70-80%.

The billet piston makes sure that once the converter goes into lock up that there is a full 100% contact and equal apply pressure all the way around. I assume all of the big companies use the same or similar apply pistons, just not something you hear much about.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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So how is it built any different than a stock one? I have no idea what they look like; is it inside the converter?
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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just reading...
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Be sure to report back. I will anxiously be awaiting your intial response. Be sure to check in about every 2 weeks or so also, so we can kinda see an overall scheme of things. Thanks Z!
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KelschKid
So how is it built any different than a stock one? I have no idea what they look like; is it inside the converter?
Billet means it is machined out of one piece metal rather than cast like most of them are. Under normal pressures they work but under hihger pressure the cast pieces will warp and not apply evenly. Billets have better structural integrity so they don't warp. Same thing with the TC cover. It needs to machined out of one piece to hold the shape with pressure and heat.

Yes, it is inside the TC.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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If you are looking for a budget tc I used a precision billet converter single disc that hauls my 46 ft enclosed. I have about 15K on it and I really like it. I had a much more expensive billet triple disc in it before which did not last 2500 miles. I paid $410 for the precision. I got mine from a local tranny shop but I think they sell them on ebay.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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I would to lIke to get more info when its all said and done. I have to start on the tranny its getting bad
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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I'm just waiting on the flexplate to get here, hopefully it will be here today. If that's the case the truck should be in the shop by the end of the week.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 07:50 PM
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Billet means it is machined out of one piece metal rather than cast like most of them are. Under normal pressures they work but under hihger pressure the cast pieces will warp and not apply evenly. Billets have better structural integrity so they don't warp. Same thing with the TC cover. It needs to machined out of one piece to hold the shape with pressure and heat.

Yes, it is inside the TC.
Well that makes sense. Thank you for the detailed description.
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