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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Talking Ladder Bar Review

Well, I had a horrible experience in my truck while trying to climb a small hill. It was a sand, small rock base, & I was going slow & then suddenly the truck started hopping so violently that I thought I broke something. It was quite embarrassing to have a $35K truck do that.

I then came home and did a research on what this could be. It was a VERY COMMON problem called "wheel-hop". Guys experienced it in the snow, soft dirt and sand. It can do some major damage to the truck drive train parts, as the wheel-hop is so violent and brutal on u-joints, differential, etc.. Basically, the leaf springs twist and start to snap back so quickly and violently that it causes the wheel-hop. In the end, it is NOT GOOD to your truck. So, with my research I decided to get the GDP Ladder Bars. www.glacierdieselpower.com

WOW! I installed them the night before and took the truck out for a 100 mile road test. There is a GREAT improvement. The way I describe it, is that it is like having 1000LBS of weight in the bed, the rear-end is PLANTED. Before the back-end was VERY "hoppy", "wobbly" and "jiggly". When going over bumps the back-end would dance around and felt unstable at times.

Now, with the GDP Bars, the read-end is glued to the ground. Any bumps in the road, the truck handled great and the back-end stayed planted, it no longer wobbled and danced around like it used to. I haven't had a chance to try them in the snow or sand but I know that my wheel-hop WILL BE GONE! The truck handles better and feels much more stable on the road.

So, unless you drive around with 1,000LBS+ in your bed, I highly recommend the bars. They will eliminate wheel hop, the truck will handle better and be a lot more stable on bumpy roads. Plus, they are a TRUE bolt-on. I had to do no drilling. The only thing I had to do was slightly bend the brake-line bracket on the pass-side to get clearance (took 1 minute). I used Synthetic Disc Brake Caliper Grease on the bushings and bolt sleeves.

I love them! Now, my truck won't rattle my fillings loose again.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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You guys with your GDP bars are gonna keep on till I have to buy a set. Nice review.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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Anybody try to make their own ladder bars? I don't think it would be that hard if you could find the end links.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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You guys with your GDP bars are gonna keep on till I have to buy a set. Nice review.
I was just looking at the site. Wish I had never saw this thread. Now I'm really thinking.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Im with you wap. All these good reviews are gonna end up making me spend more money.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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Thanks for the review. Im likely going to be buying some of these within the next couple weeks. Did you do the install by yourself or did you have two people? Also how long did it take?
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pet05
The way I describe it, is that it is like having 1000LBS of weight in the bed, the rear-end is PLANTED.

So, unless you drive around with 1,000LBS+ in your bed, I highly recommend the bars.
OK about having the 1K lbs in the bed I have more then that at times (5th wheel car trailer with car pulled up directly over rear axle) And in the snow, wet or anything I STILL get wheel hop not nearly as bad now that I got new tires but if im facing uphill and even with a load the rears start spinning and if I dont feather it just right the hop can get EXTREMELY bad!

So Think you could give me a different kind of review for them rather then just the 1K lbs one?? I really want to find a solution thats why I ask
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SconsinSmoker
Anybody try to make their own ladder bars? I don't think it would be that hard if you could find the end links.
I have seen a couple threads on here a while back about home brewed ladder bars. The search button may bring them up but it has been a while since I have seen a thread about it. Heres one to give you and idea...https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=109848

Thanks for the in depth review Pet05! I have been on the fence about getting the GDP ladder bars myself. I think I will have to shell out some $$ in the near future for a set...
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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OK, here is a better termed reivew:

Every GDP Bars come with double 1/2" u-bolt rear mounts that require no modification to the truck or welding. Our unique bolt-on front pivot mount allows forward and rearward travel of the axle during suspension flex while eliminating rear wheel "hop". As a side benefit empty ride quality and stability are greatly enhanced!

The GDP Ladder Bars DO ALLOW for movement. That is why we use a front pivot system. The bars that use a rigid front mount are the ones that either break or cause driveline wear. Our front pivot moves forward 1.30" and rearward 1.10" during suspension flex. Can you imagine what would happen with a rigid front mount? Something has to give somewhere.

That's why we refuse to build rigid front mounts even though it has cost me some sale. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I knew that something I built could cause harm to a customers vehicle.

In the end WHEEL-HOP is GONE!!
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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I love my GDP bars. The way the truck drives is COMPLETELY different.... By far one of the top mods on my truck because I literally use them everyday. I cant wait till I can get a set for the 03...
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SconsinSmoker
Anybody try to make their own ladder bars? I don't think it would be that hard if you could find the end links.
I made these:



They are built strong enough to withstand any CTD, and keep the pinion angle where you adjust it to; of course, they are bolt-on.

Wheelhop has been eliminated, and weight transfer has benefited greatly due to the leverage of the long bars.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pet05
Vinceg99-

OK, here is a better termed reivew:

Every GDP Bars come with double 1/2" u-bolt rear mounts that require no modification to the truck or welding. Our unique bolt-on front pivot mount allows forward and rearward travel of the axle during suspension flex while eliminating rear wheel "hop". As a side benefit empty ride quality and stability are greatly enhanced!

The GDP Ladder Bars DO ALLOW for movement. That is why we use a front pivot system. The bars that use a rigid front mount are the ones that either break or cause driveline wear. Our front pivot moves forward 1.30" and rearward 1.10" during suspension flex. Can you imagine what would happen with a rigid front mount? Something has to give somewhere.

That's why we refuse to build rigid front mounts even though it has cost me some sale. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I knew that something I built could cause harm to a customers vehicle.

In the end WHEEL-HOP is GONE!!
Thanks for the more descriptive post! Now saw on GDP that they have 2 different ones, I realize ones thicker then the other so well that means more rigid but was wondering which would be better to go with? My truck is a work truck some work will be done but not much power wise. So which would be better?

Also seeing how they mount would those affect step bars at all?
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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I have to agree. Richards bars are very well built and make a extreme difference.

I posted some pics here....for those interested in the set up.
I didn't really appreciate the bright red lettering inserted by a mod
though. All that was completely unnecessary.

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...bars+installed
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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Vinceg99 -

I went with the standard STRIPPER bars as they are lighter. There is NO WAY that even the lighter/thinner stripper bars would bend compared to the SLEDDING heavier/thicker bars. UNLESS, one is SLEDDING then get the thicker bars but for normal street, towing, hauling, even racing use, the stripper bars are MORE than adequate, plus they weigh less.....
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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yeah i have been wanting a set of Richard's bar for a while now just been waiting to get to them. tranny has to come first though. but i can't wait to get a set of these strippers on my truck. the positive reviews just make it harder and harder.
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