Can anyone give me some personal experience info with either or both of these. Are they any better that stock and in what way?

 

Well they are both definetly better than stock..... Not so much for towing honestly.....

 

Just put the kores on an I am loving them so far

 

My Carli packs did fine towing my 9000 lb travel trailer. Sometimes I even had my golf cart in the bed at the same time.

 

I have an older Kore Chase with the Mini Packs and have towed a 12k gooseneck and had no issues, though I dont use that trailer much. My lighter trailer (4k) is also no problem at all. Have had 2.5 tons in the bed and while it was a bit much (I personally dont recommend putting that much in there) and only had to go about 20 miles I didnt have any problems. I did leave my upper overloads on, the ones that come with the camper package.

They are definitely better than stock. Better ride on road and significantly better ride off road.

 

I have the full Carli pack on my 05 and it works great,still allows carrying
to stock gvw.it has some droop when heavy but not anymore than the stock springs.I have had the kore mini packs on my 2nd gen but with just 2" shocks a bit too harsh for my liking.I would step up to the full packs,even if it requires a bit of a wait for the budget.

Bob