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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Help with a HUGE problem!

Okay... Without going into deep detail, here's my situation:

Bought my 05 2500 yesterday (very excited!)

Purchased a set of Weld wheels w/ BFG AT's

Went down to my buddy's shop today to install them, and I guess he cross-threaded several of the lug nuts when installing with the impact gun. We pulled them all back off, and straightened most of it out, but several were damaged pretty badly. Worst is that two of them on the front seem to have the studs spinning now. So we need to definitely replace some front studs and possibly rear. Rear seems pretty simple, but I'm curious what procedures have to be taken to replace studs on the front of our trucks. Thanks for your help in advance!

Sorry, I cross-posted this in two forums because I wasn't sure which it belonged most, and because I'm in a big-time panic right now to find some info. out before tomorrow morning!
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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Is your truck 4WD?
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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Yes it is, sorry I failed to mention that
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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STUDS

REMOVAL
  1. Raise and support the vehicle.
  2. Remove the wheel and tire assembly.
  3. Remove the brake caliper, caliper adapter and rotor.
  4. Remove the wheel speed sensor from the hub.
  1. Press the stud from the hub using special tool C-4150A (1).
  1. Remove the stud (2) from the hub (1) through the backing plate access hole (3).
INSTALLATION
  1. Install the new stud (2) into the hub flange (1).
  2. Install three proper sized washers onto the stud, then install lug nut with the flat side of the nut against the washers.
  3. Tighten the lug nut until the stud is pulled into the hub flange. Verify that the stud is properly seated into the flange.
  4. Remove the lug nut and washers.
  5. Install the brake rotor, caliper adapter, and caliper.
  6. Install the wheel speed sensor.
  7. Install the wheel and tire assembly, use new lug nut on the stud or studs that were replaced.
  8. Remove the support and lower the vehicle.

NEVER NEVER install lug nut with a impact gun ALWAYS hand start them and you will save your self so serious hassle.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 53 ******
STUDS

REMOVAL
  1. Raise and support the vehicle.
  2. Remove the wheel and tire assembly.
  3. Remove the brake caliper, caliper adapter and rotor.
  4. Remove the wheel speed sensor from the hub.
  1. Press the stud from the hub using special tool C-4150A (1).
  1. Remove the stud (2) from the hub (1) through the backing plate access hole (3).
INSTALLATION

  1. Install the new stud (2) into the hub flange (1).
  2. Install three proper sized washers onto the stud, then install lug nut with the flat side of the nut against the washers.
  3. Tighten the lug nut until the stud is pulled into the hub flange. Verify that the stud is properly seated into the flange.
  4. Remove the lug nut and washers.
  5. Install the brake rotor, caliper adapter, and caliper.
  6. Install the wheel speed sensor.
  7. Install the wheel and tire assembly, use new lug nut on the stud or studs that were replaced.
  8. Remove the support and lower the vehicle.


What a great post! You must be a Megacab member...Oh wait, YOU ARE!!!!!
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by D.Wiggs
What a great post! You must be a Megacab member...Oh wait, YOU ARE!!!!!
Why thank you fellow megacab member
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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if you dont have the press tool just use a big hammer to knock them out this is a shot of the backing plate access hole....
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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Yeah... Agreed on the impact gun... I've seen shops install lugs a thousand times that way without problems... Figures mine would be the one where it gets all screwed up.. Oh well, thanks a million for the info, I'm going to print it for the morning!
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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installing lug nuts with a impact gun is not standard practice for most techs hand start, then impact maybe or if you want to be by the book... hand start and then torque wrench to spec.

good luck with you project, shouldn't be to hard
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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Yeah.. well the only thing I'm majorly concerned with is the wheel that is stuck on because the studs are spinning... The lug nut kind of just spins freely and won't back off and the wheel is stuck... Which is where my biggest problem lies. So I don't really know how we're going to approach that, but I do have two buddies of mine that are both mechanics w/ dodge trucks, so hopefully they'll be the helping hand that we need!

Thanks guys!

Rick
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:01 AM
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Got a torch?? you may need it to get those off
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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I hope we can figure something else out. The wheels are brand new weld cheyanne 8's... I really don't want to have to buy another wheel
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:36 AM
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just use the torch to cut the lug stud off.....some ply wood or a welding blanket will protect the wheel.
or a small die grinder/zizwheel...with a cutting blade, a 4/12" grinder with a cutting wheel would work also.....

you may be able to get a sawzall in there?????
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 01:01 AM
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I would try using a dremel to cut them off. Also you need to give your buddy a swift kick in the butt!
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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Are you sure the studs are spinning?

Or just the lug nuts?

It's pretty hard to strip out the splines in the hub. Check and see whether the stud has partially backed out of the hub from all of the abuse.

Otherwise, if you're handy with a hammer and cold chisel - it'd take about 15 minutes to split one down the side and pull it out... not much room to work!

With those wheels, I'd use a torch or plasma as a last resort.
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