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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:01 PM
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Grid delete and cold start issue

Got down to the 30's and had an issue with starting this morning, what can I do to help out the cold starts in the morning, far short of putting a heating pad on it over night. LOL
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Old Dec 9, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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did you plug it in? (block heater not heating blanket! LOL)
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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Mine starts fine 10-15 degree weather not plugged up with a grid delete. I have found on stock programming that it struggles and smokes a TON of white even at 30 degrees. But with my Smarty Jr. programming it fires right up down to 10 degrees with minimal smoke(thats the coldest its gotten since i installed the delete winter of '07) I think the added timing helps?
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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When you guy's delete the heater grid, does that mean you are no longer able to plug it in to warm it up? If so, how long does it take for your trucks to run at idle in the mornings to get up to temp?
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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When you guy's delete the heater grid, does that mean you are no longer able to plug it in to warm it up? If so, how long does it take for your trucks to run at idle in the mornings to get up to temp?
That shouldn't make a difference. As far as I know the plug just runs to a frost plug that heats the coolant.

Why not just run the grid heater for a couple months until the cold weather breaks? I wouldn't dare not running one up here in the winter months.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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Duk, what was the issue?? I start mine at 30* or less with not much problem.
Just takes 2-5 sec longer.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Just seems to want to turn over a lot longer. When warm turn the key truck fires up. Last couple of mornings it took a few cranks. I don't let it crank too long so it takes a good 3 0r 4 cranks 2-4 seconds each.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Ok stupid question, is the block heater the plug that I have noticed just laying there next to the inter cooler? Guess, I could go out and check. If it is I am going to feel real stupid
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Ok stupid question, is the block heater the plug that I have noticed just laying there next to the inter cooler? Guess, I could go out and check. If it is I am going to feel real stupid
wow yes it is
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DUKCALN
Just seems to want to turn over a lot longer. When warm turn the key truck fires up. Last couple of mornings it took a few cranks. I don't let it crank too long so it takes a good 3 0r 4 cranks 2-4 seconds each.
That's not so bad...

I've got a Ford LCF with a 4.5L Powerstroke that takes 15-20 seconds to fire at 60°. I'd be afraid to park overnight if it snowed...
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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Okay this will sound a little harsh but less then a week ago you were all for the grid heater delete and recommended it to other members.

It sure does not sound like such a good idea now.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CamperAndy
Okay this will sound a little harsh but less then a week ago you were all for the grid heater delete and recommended it to other members.

It sure does not sound like such a good idea now.
I suggest it, and I am sticking with it. Just want to make sure the cold start is what it is and nothing else. If it is then I can live with it. If I need to plug it in no big deal. Just asking for advice. On my truck, with its set up the grid delete is a important part of why I made so much HP. Im not changing it back, just asking for advice. At no time did I say I regret it.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:42 PM
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I suggest it, and I am sticking with it. Just want to make sure the cold start is what it is and nothing else. If it is then I can live with it. If I need to plug it in no big deal. Just asking for advice. On my truck, with its set up the grid delete is a important part of why I made so much HP. Im not changing it back, just asking for advice. At no time did I say I regret it.
Just plug the block heater in and keep it warm. Bought my 04 new in ALASKA.
Lived there for six years. I would NOT get by there with a grid deleat. Do you really see any HP gains by getting rid of it?? And by that I mean on a Dyno.
Not what is claimed.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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It was 18* here two days ago, and my 05 started right up. It was not plugged in, and it doesn't have grid heaters anymore. This was with flux 6 injectors.

30* should not be cold enough to cause hard starting without a grid heater. If you have low rail pressure under a crank, then that would cause it. The colder it is, the more it shows up.

Paul
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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What would cause low RP at start up? Maybe I need to crank the psi up on the FASS?
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