fs2500 or Oilguard bypass systems
fs2500 or Oilguard bypass systems
Just wanted to know who out there uses either of these and what is there opinion of maintanance/filter changes. Not interested in TP filter or Amsoil/Fleetguard systems at this time.
Thanks in advance.
Tony
Thanks in advance.
Tony
Fs2500???
Hi,
I'm not familiar with the FS2500. Could you please tell me about it?
The Oilguard I am familiar with & is the one I would probably choose.
I'm ,also, interested in the Spinner-II, which, is a centrifuge. Spins the oil in the canister & all the unwanted junk adheres to the inner wall of the canister.
If you would like tons of information on Bypass Filteration, go to "bob is the oil guy.com" & go to the Bypass Filters forum.
I know you are quite concerned by the "looks" of your oil. It does get black, quickly. I've heard that the soot, which is causing the discoloration of your oil, is submicron & will just float in the oil. It is small enough that the thickness of the oil is thicker than the particles of soot. Even in tight areas such as bearing surfaces, etc. If the soot gets too concentrated, the oil can start to thicken, which, isn't good. The new oils, especially the CI-4+ rated oils, are designed to better suspend & deal with the soot.
I understand your concern about the quality of the oil in your truck & I don't blame you, one bit. But, black oil has been around since diesel engines were invented. I had a 1980 Mercedes-Benz 300-D, 5 cylinder diesel, years ago & the oil looked like hell right after changing it. In Europe, they use the 4 cylinder version of that engine in taxi's & would easily get 1,000,000 miles out of them before they needed an engine rebuild. Back then, the oils weren't nearly as good as they are, now, either.
I know you just ordered the Oilguard system but, you may want to call your dealer & Daimler-Chrysler (Dodge) & find out what effect the addition of a bypass filter will have on your engine warranty. I've heard that if you have an oil related problem, the fact that you had installed an aftermarket filtration system on your engine MAY void your warranty. I would, certainly, check it out, first.
I don't mean to throw gasoline, or diesel, onto the fire & complicate your problem any more than it already is but, maybe you might be better off not installing the Bypass Filter & just follow Dodge's oil & filter recommendations, to the letter, so as not to void your engine warranty. If, in fact, there actually IS something wrong with your engine, it, probably, will not last throughout the warranty period & you will get a new engine. You may still have time to cancel the Oilguard order.
I would, very definately, go over to the "bob is the oil guy.com" website, also. It's a free website, however, you do have to register to use it. No big deal. Also, check out the UOA (used oil analysis) forum. Lots of information. I would, also, take an oil sample & have it tested. Especially when you think your oil looks its worst. There is a guy at the website named Terry Dyson who can give you an indepth review of your sample. It might cost you $40.00 but, if it can alleviate your concerns it would be money well spent. Mr. Dyson uses a lab he trusts, also. If you decide to use his services, ask him what oils he recommends.
Regarding the various oils, I've read more good comments about the Chevron Delo-400, than any other oil. Especially, the new CI-4+ (with moly & boron.). For a conventional oil, it seems to be a very "strong" oil with a great additive package. You can also get it at Costco & Sam's Club for a very good price, if you are a member. However, I think most of the name brand, fleet-rated motor oils will be excellent, in your engine. Also, be sure to use Fleetguard/Mopar oil filters.
I hope what I've written will ease some of your concerns. It must be aggravating to purchase an expensive vehicle & have your fears about the oil. I hope you will be able to put these fears to rest. To be honest with you, I think everything is OK. But, from the "looks" of your oil, I can understand your worries.
I hope you get your questions answered so that you can start enjoying your new truck.
Joe F.(Buffalo)
I'm not familiar with the FS2500. Could you please tell me about it?
The Oilguard I am familiar with & is the one I would probably choose.
I'm ,also, interested in the Spinner-II, which, is a centrifuge. Spins the oil in the canister & all the unwanted junk adheres to the inner wall of the canister.
If you would like tons of information on Bypass Filteration, go to "bob is the oil guy.com" & go to the Bypass Filters forum.
I know you are quite concerned by the "looks" of your oil. It does get black, quickly. I've heard that the soot, which is causing the discoloration of your oil, is submicron & will just float in the oil. It is small enough that the thickness of the oil is thicker than the particles of soot. Even in tight areas such as bearing surfaces, etc. If the soot gets too concentrated, the oil can start to thicken, which, isn't good. The new oils, especially the CI-4+ rated oils, are designed to better suspend & deal with the soot.
I understand your concern about the quality of the oil in your truck & I don't blame you, one bit. But, black oil has been around since diesel engines were invented. I had a 1980 Mercedes-Benz 300-D, 5 cylinder diesel, years ago & the oil looked like hell right after changing it. In Europe, they use the 4 cylinder version of that engine in taxi's & would easily get 1,000,000 miles out of them before they needed an engine rebuild. Back then, the oils weren't nearly as good as they are, now, either.
I know you just ordered the Oilguard system but, you may want to call your dealer & Daimler-Chrysler (Dodge) & find out what effect the addition of a bypass filter will have on your engine warranty. I've heard that if you have an oil related problem, the fact that you had installed an aftermarket filtration system on your engine MAY void your warranty. I would, certainly, check it out, first.
I don't mean to throw gasoline, or diesel, onto the fire & complicate your problem any more than it already is but, maybe you might be better off not installing the Bypass Filter & just follow Dodge's oil & filter recommendations, to the letter, so as not to void your engine warranty. If, in fact, there actually IS something wrong with your engine, it, probably, will not last throughout the warranty period & you will get a new engine. You may still have time to cancel the Oilguard order.
I would, very definately, go over to the "bob is the oil guy.com" website, also. It's a free website, however, you do have to register to use it. No big deal. Also, check out the UOA (used oil analysis) forum. Lots of information. I would, also, take an oil sample & have it tested. Especially when you think your oil looks its worst. There is a guy at the website named Terry Dyson who can give you an indepth review of your sample. It might cost you $40.00 but, if it can alleviate your concerns it would be money well spent. Mr. Dyson uses a lab he trusts, also. If you decide to use his services, ask him what oils he recommends.
Regarding the various oils, I've read more good comments about the Chevron Delo-400, than any other oil. Especially, the new CI-4+ (with moly & boron.). For a conventional oil, it seems to be a very "strong" oil with a great additive package. You can also get it at Costco & Sam's Club for a very good price, if you are a member. However, I think most of the name brand, fleet-rated motor oils will be excellent, in your engine. Also, be sure to use Fleetguard/Mopar oil filters.
I hope what I've written will ease some of your concerns. It must be aggravating to purchase an expensive vehicle & have your fears about the oil. I hope you will be able to put these fears to rest. To be honest with you, I think everything is OK. But, from the "looks" of your oil, I can understand your worries.
I hope you get your questions answered so that you can start enjoying your new truck.
Joe F.(Buffalo)
I know about the Spinner (centrifugual) system. Supposed to be good but a bit to complex for my liking. Go to fs-2500.com I believe. Alot of good info and a really good video showing how well their system works. But it costs about double the Oilguard unit. I've read alot of posts on Bobistheoilguy.com.
Very good site. I can't see how these systems would alter the engine warranty. From what I've read, I know for certain that bypass oil filtration has nothing but benefits for any engine. I also use Blackstone and my first report shows a normal engine "break-in" analysis. I appreciate the time you took writing your post. I know that everything is "ok" with my engine and its' oil, however, I feel that it CAN be better. I also love tinkering with mechanical things. Thanks again.
Tony
Very good site. I can't see how these systems would alter the engine warranty. From what I've read, I know for certain that bypass oil filtration has nothing but benefits for any engine. I also use Blackstone and my first report shows a normal engine "break-in" analysis. I appreciate the time you took writing your post. I know that everything is "ok" with my engine and its' oil, however, I feel that it CAN be better. I also love tinkering with mechanical things. Thanks again.
Tony
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