I have the SMARTY and I have a PPE HOT, which I believe is the Xcelerator HOT but with timing. With either stacked with the TST w/timing adj the difference between the two in performance is about "0", I would say. I haven't had either to the track but sotp feels about equal. What I'm saying is if your Xcelerator had timing it would be a different story and there is NO way the SMARTY on 3 would compare. It would take everything the SMARTY has for sure. I love 'em both and with the TST w/timing adj then I can make the mods to work with either. Additionally I run the EZ with either combo on lvl 2 mostly and that also hooks up nicely. Basically when I run either, the SMARTY or the PPE HOT, I use their on-board timing and turn the TST to 0*. I can run it with 3* but I get a bit a injector rattle I don't care for. Hooked up like that then I don't get the dreaded high rpm pop either and great power flow throughout the rpm range.

 

i would go for dual cp3 no doubt....i think don will have have an injector designed for dual cp3 that i am sure will be sick!

 

Why mess around with a single modded CP3? It will never flow as much as two stock CP3's while remaining streetable.

 

OUT OF HERE, Im telling you its true. Atleast on my truck it is. I love my xcelerator, dont get me wrong here. Im not doggin it, but for me the smarty really made a BIG difference on MY truck. About 10mph through the 1/4, From a dead stop it breaks the tires loose sooner and way longer then I ever did on any level with the excelerator. Not saying that on somebody elses truck the excelerator might not do better, but for me its smarty all the way!!

 

I just talked to a guy over at PDW. He said that II Super CP3 takes a lot of machining to install it. The dual CP3s now and in the next 12 to 18 months will be bolt on applications anyone can do in their driveway. When it comes time I'll go with dual CP3s. They seem to be about the same price.

 

Everyone, There are alot of urban legends growing in this thread. Mtomac...the Super CP3.4 is a factory Bosch pump with a full warranty used in 2000ft-lb+ diesel rigs operating at 2800rpm. At 3500rpm it can flow enough for 2500ft-lb easily.
With all due respect the dual CP3's are a good solution but they are expensive for two unmodded CP3's with no warranty. Although yes they can be bolted on in the driveway. Alot of guys on this site would have no problem installing the Super either. I'd tackle it now and I'm a very green novice mechanic but it is a serious job.
Don M has injectors to handle dual CP3's or Super CP3.4...I have a set of Hellfires. With the huge pressure and volume that the CP3.4 can produce the rating of a 175hp injector goes out the window ... the engine will grow in HP a very large amount provided you can provide a good cylinder environment for good combustion. If you are not making 120psi of 250 degree or less air you will not be able to get the full advantage of the duals or the super.
The Super CP3.4 comes with a custom machined gear case to replace the stock gear case on the front of the engine. The ECM gets spaced about 2 inches off the engine and there is some minor grinding on some brackets. Mass Diesel has done mine and at least one other. NADP has installed some. Daly's Dynamic Diesel has done some. Diesel-Dan and I have them on here.

The Super Cp3.4 operates the same as the stock cp3.3. It is quiet and can be run using the stock turbo provided you have the tst boost and temp limiters in place. The only time you notice a difference is at WOT with big injectors.....where a modded pump will drop below 20k psi the Super is still delivering 30k+ steady. With both a Dual or Super setup you will need one or two Walbro 392's (Richard is good to go with this) or one or two Fass 200-60psi set up for comp. With my Fass 150 at 60psi I am limited to maybe 850hp.

Either Dual CP3's or Super CP3.4's are really only for competition use. For daily drivers I'd go with a moddedCP3. Yes they will work but it is total overkill.

With regards to the turbo hijacking, A great single will make more power than a set of twins if the big turbo is only slightly larger than the big single.
Twins allow you to run a huge turbo on the bottom that is very difficult to run as a single. Twins are way more streetable than big singles. That said....I think that the turbo technology used in all the current twins setups is stuck in the 70's. A biggggg turbo and Nitrous is a hard to beat setup. A biggggg turbo without nitrous is for competion use only. Just my experience. ks

 

K,

There is a box soon to be headed your way. Perhaps in a few hours. The holidays have DHL and UPS all messed up though

 

Don, DHL, UPS, and me ....are all messed up, Season's Greetings everyone!!!
M e r r y C h r i s t m a s

 

kerry claims to be a very green novice mechanic, i am not buying that one bit.

chris

 

Since the CP3.4 is a bigger non oem CP3 is it legal for use with the DHRA and other sanctioning bodies?

The ATS and PPE dual CP3 kits for the Duramax are totally streetable and daily driveable. I can't see why they wouldn't be the same for the Cummins.

 

My truck is all torn aprart but so far actually on the motor about half of what is ordered/ being ordered.

 

I wish someone would help me out I picked out my injectors the other day but my mechanic still has not ordered them. I wish Don M would help me out since hes always on here and tell me what size injectors I need or what kind he makes for my 06 with all my mods. Im thinking 180hp but dont want to go to big so I cant drive it on the street. how big can I go and still maintain streetability.

 

So you have 0 miles on this engine so far?

 

Yes the engine is brand new.

 

Pourindiesel Thats A Hella Of A Pull. I Dont Know Anything About Pulling. Do You Think I Could Pull Good With My Dually And The Mods I Have Or Is There A Special Setup