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Does adding boost fooler help spool quicker.

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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 07:40 AM
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Does adding boost fooler help spool quicker.

Im thinking about getting a boost fooler for the ram and id like to know if it will work for me. Id like to get quicker spooling from a dead stop. like from stop sign and red lights. I know the best way for this is to get smaller tires but not happening lol.

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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 08:07 AM
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no, boost fooler tricks the ecm into thinking it is a lower boost number when you are running bigger turbo/'s
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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so it only raises the boost at WOT
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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does not raise the boost at all. it tricks the ECM so it won't set an overboost code. does nothing for spool up
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 08:16 AM
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icic. so when people install it and there boost gauge shows higher than stock its not really? sry a little confused now. i understand what ur saying but i always thought it does raise boost
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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I don't know what everyone is talking about. My mechanical gauge shows higher boost at full throttle (40psi) and it spools much faster below that. Boosted launches are more difficult without it. It fools the ecm into thinking boost is lower than it really is, so it runs it up. Buy it!
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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icic. so when people install it and there boost gauge shows higher than stock its not really? sry a little confused now. i understand what ur saying but i always thought it does raise boost

your mechanical boost gauge is going to read actual. fooler is electronic and only messes with the ecm to prevent overboost codes
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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I don't know what everyone is talking about. My mechanical gauge shows higher boost at full throttle (40psi) and it spools much faster below that. Boosted launches are more difficult without it. It fools the ecm into thinking boost is lower than it really is, so it runs it up. Buy it!
until he gets rid of the predator, he will never see 40psi and if he does, his tranny is going to be screaming at him. yours is built and you are running higher SW's from the smarty than he can (if he had a smarty) with a stock trans (unless his trans is built and just don't say it in his sig)
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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so then why are others seeing 40 when you say it does nothing to raise boost and only prevents overboost code.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 09:02 AM
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i had one on my last 5.9 and it did nothing. they are designed to prevent over boost codes when running larger turbo's. smarty has boost fooling built in anyways.

and to get 40psi there are many factors, load, elevation, fueling etc.... come up to 5100 feet where we are and would lay money that 40psi would be very rare with a stock turbo
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by cbrahs

and to get 40psi there are many factors, load, elevation, fueling etc.... come up to 5100 feet where we are and would lay money that 40psi would be very rare with a stock turbo
By the time you subtract the lower ~3 psi from elevation and the compounded effect that has on air density... very rare indeed if not possible without grenading a seriously overspun turbo.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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ok now that i know. scrap this idea. thanks guys
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I believe cbrahs is correct in that the boost fooler tricks the ECM into thinking the boost is lower than it actually is. This does mean that the ECM will not throw an overboost code. However, I believe the primary purpose of this "fooling" or "tricking" is to prevent the ECM from telling the wastegate to open, thereby allowing more boost.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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thats what i thought.
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Old Mar 17, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by randallp84
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I believe cbrahs is correct in that the boost fooler tricks the ECM into thinking the boost is lower than it actually is. This does mean that the ECM will not throw an overboost code. However, I believe the primary purpose of this "fooling" or "tricking" is to prevent the ECM from telling the wastegate to open, thereby allowing more boost.
Also note that this statement only applies to 04.5+ trucks with the electronic wastegate. On earlier trucks that don't have an electronic wastegate, the primary (and maybe ONLY) purpose of the boost fooler would be to prevent overboost codes.
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