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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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Crazy to cool air to turbo??

This one is really out there but I recently installed a home made tube rfom the air box to the turbo. I noticed the A/C line is very close to this area of the engine bay. My question is:
If one were to increase the amt of metal this "torque tube" is made from and have a metal A/C coil fabricated to wrap around the tube would it increase hp? It seems way too simple so maybe there is not enough benefit from denser air going into the turbo.
Please offer opinions. Also are there aftermarket go fast products for the aftercooler?
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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Now that is being innovative. Unfortunately, I believe the companies that have tested the effects of using a metal intake tube have come to the conclusion that the air passes through too fast to pick up any heat. I would think you would get the same result trying to cool it. Air would just blow right by without the temp changing up or down. I dunno. Just a thought.

Got any pics of the home made intake you put together? I ordered the same parts from Air Flow Systems. They are still sitting on the work bench, along with a Piers turbo, ATS manifold, AFE PG7 intake....ohhhh I can't wait. Probably another week before I get time to throw all that in. Just want to see how the intake turned out.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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I was looking at a Jeg's catalog today, and as I leafed through the sport compact section, something caught my eye. It was a insulation kit for the air intake pipe. Fits 2.5" up to 4" diameter pipe and up to 36" in length. I got to thinking about using it on the cold sid of the intercooler. It was designed for the long intake tubes on ricers, so it may have some merit, but I think the intake tube on our trucks are too short for the air to pick up much heat. The intercooler tubes are long enough that something leki this may help. I remember that one of the intercooler tubes on my PowerStroke was insulated.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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After some more thought it seems to make more sense to cool the air after the aftercooler (is that the same as an intercooler-it is "downstream" from the turbo??). I am looking at the big chunk of manifold material and just can't help but think getting that thing cooled would help. Getting custom A/C hardline around here is cheap as any hose co. can make it up. If something like this were tried I am wondering if condensation inside the intake would pose a problem but then again a little H2O might help?
There has got to be cheaper ways to make good, safe, streetable power than what we have no?
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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If you could pick up a little before the intercooler and a little after, you may just get enough to make a difference. You have to have the A/C on for it to cool, right? Doesn't the A/C compressor rob some power from the engine when it's running? So whatever you gained from cooling the intake would be negated by what you lost running the compressor....maybe??

Just take an air duct from the dash and tap it into the intake after the intercooler. Not only would you get more air, but turn on the A/C, fan on high, and you get a nice shot of the real cold stuff. Watch...someone will try this, and when it works, Geno's will offer a duct tap kit and we will all pay big money for one.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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Cooling the intake charge is the whole principle behind water/methanol injection. Water injection really isn't needed for near stock hp levels, but anything that can be done to help keep the air after the intercooler cool is a benefit.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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good ideas but take a look at designengineering.com. Cryo2 system better set up if tubes would fit.
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