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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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Bypass Oil Filter

Quick question:
What bypass oil filter should I use for my 2004.5 Dodge Ram 3500? Under $100 if at all possible (if there are any good quality ones for cheaper, that's even better!)
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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I don't think you can even get a Frantz TP for that but they are probably still the cheapest in the long run cuz TP is cheap. One of the other cheapest bypasses is the Fleetguard base and their spin-ons but I think they are only 5 micron, which is still much better than just the fullflow. My Oilguard with 20 extra filters was <$200 but deals like that are long gone! Be sure to check the price of filters - that's where they get ya'! Craig








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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Let me clarify, $100 or less for just the install kit, not including the filter. I figured that filters will run 15 - 30 dollars or so for each.
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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I thought this might be a good way to relocate my main filter and also add a bypass filter. Any thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DODGE...#ht_500wt_1186

I don't really like the location of the stock oil filter, since it's really a pain to change it where it is located. This would allow me to use some hydraulic hose to relocate the main filter on the frame and I could also add an amsoil bypass filter.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 06:37 AM
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you still have to buy the adapter plate with that kit, who knows how much that will be extra.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DENVERDODGE04
you still have to buy the adapter plate with that kit, who knows how much that will be extra.
http://cgi.ebay.com/DODGE-Ram-Spin-o...QQcmdZViewItem

the adapter is 27 bucks


So thats 100 bucks (approx.) for the whole setup (plus any filters)

Does this sound like a good setup?
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 07:44 AM
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Question on the bypass system:

when adding a single filter bypass, what is the benefit of adding a bypass system verses simply changing the spin on filter attached to the block-replacing the cummins standard filter with an amsoil 2micron one??? or did I miss something?

can you even get a a 2micron spin on filter to fit the 5.9L?
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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This auction from the same guy actually includes everyting (with filters)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DODGE...#ht_500wt_1186
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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The point of a bypass filter is this:

You have your standard filter (lets say 15 microns high flow) that is constantly filtering all of the oil to remove the larger particles. That works well enough... but you always have smaller particulates and you change your oil frequently. A bypass system keeps the high flow filter, but also adds a 2 micron filter that is slowly filtering your oil in addition to the full flow filter (approx 5 percent of your oil at any given time) so you're polishing your motor oil and removing smaller particles. Therefore you greatly increase the life of your motor oil, and you prevent the wear and tear on your engine of driving around for 3500 miles or so with >15 micron soot particles in your oil that are acting like tiny sandpaper.

If you couple this with a oil filter relocation kit, you can relocate both of those filters to some place on the truck more convenient for changing (like the frame).
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by brianblack138
The point of a bypass filter is this:

You have your standard filter (lets say 15 microns high flow) that is constantly filtering all of the oil to remove the larger particles. That works well enough... but you always have smaller particulates and you change your oil frequently. A bypass system keeps the high flow filter, but also adds a 2 micron filter that is slowly filtering your oil in addition to the full flow filter (approx 5 percent of your oil at any given time) so you're polishing your motor oil and removing smaller particles. Therefore you greatly increase the life of your motor oil, and you prevent the wear and tear on your engine of driving around for 3500 miles or so with >15 micron soot particles in your oil that are acting like tiny sandpaper.

If you couple this with a oil filter relocation kit, you can relocate both of those filters to some place on the truck more convenient for changing (like the frame).
Thanks for the update-I thought you simply replaced your high flow filter with the bypass system. I appreciate you bringing me up to speed.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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I thought our oil filters were around 7-9 mic???
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 08:25 AM
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Brian,
I changed my intake ...to a Torque tube (from DTR store)

NOW to change the stock oil filter ..
loosen two clamps
take Torque Tube out and change filter from above EASY and don't spill a drop !

,Flip

P.S. stay AWAY FROM "FRAM "
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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I thought our oil filters were around 7-9 mic???
STRATAPORE filters are 9 mic...and my oil is BLACK 2 min after changing...

the third gen 5.9 is like the old MACK motors...

the oil is SOOOOOOOOO
freakin dirty...
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tcr
I thought our oil filters were around 7-9 mic???
Originally Posted by belgianmagic
STRATAPORE filters are 9 mic...and my oil is BLACK 2 min after changing...

the third gen 5.9 is like the old MACK motors...

the oil is SOOOOOOOOO
freakin dirty...

Are you talking full flow?? OE full flow are 35 microns, Stratapore full flow are 25 microns, Amsoil Full Flow are 15 microns, Amsoil bypass are 2 microns.


That amsoil BMK-21 can be had for 140 plus filter, plus shipping. Its the best rated filter i know of, and is easy to install and change. With high mileage filter change requirements.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by belgianmagic
Brian,
I changed my intake ...to a Torque tube (from DTR store)

NOW to change the stock oil filter ..
loosen two clamps
take Torque Tube out and change filter from above EASY and don't spill a drop !

,Flip

P.S. stay AWAY FROM "FRAM "
why stay away from fram?

where do you put it on the frame i havent looked but i woud think the exhaust would be in the way.
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