air bags on lifted application?
03-30-2007, 10:30 AM
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Mike,
How do the upper brackets mount to the frame? Do they wrap around the frame or have a leg that sits on top of the frame rail? I ask because I have a B & W Turnover Ball gooseneck hitch, and it sits on top of the frame rail and spans from driver's to passenger's side directly above the axle. The inner side of the frame is clear, but the top and outer side frame is blocked by the hitch. Do you think I could still mount these bags under my truck?
If Sage and Mike say they can.....they can. These guys build stuff that really works, they don't just say they work. They're the type of guys you want working on your ride.
How do the upper brackets mount to the frame? Do they wrap around the frame or have a leg that sits on top of the frame rail? I ask because I have a B & W Turnover Ball gooseneck hitch, and it sits on top of the frame rail and spans from driver's to passenger's side directly above the axle. The inner side of the frame is clear, but the top and outer side frame is blocked by the hitch. Do you think I could still mount these bags under my truck?
If Sage and Mike say they can.....they can. These guys build stuff that really works, they don't just say they work. They're the type of guys you want working on your ride.
03-30-2007, 10:32 AM
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JD,
These are for guys who love to run their trucks hard offroad, but still have to tow things now and again. To get top performance in the dirt guys like me rework the leaf spring pack for a softer, smoother ride and more useable travel to soak up those big hits. This usually means we lose some load carrying capacity, and with the big 5th wheel toyhauler hooked up the rear sags a ton. Just adding the standard off the shelf air bag kit will give back the capacity lost, but it will take back the added travel gained with the new springs. With Sage and Mike's solution, we retain all the benefits of the new springs (soft ride and added travel) but can level up the truck for pulling the toyhauler to the desert or what have you.
These are for guys who love to run their trucks hard offroad, but still have to tow things now and again. To get top performance in the dirt guys like me rework the leaf spring pack for a softer, smoother ride and more useable travel to soak up those big hits. This usually means we lose some load carrying capacity, and with the big 5th wheel toyhauler hooked up the rear sags a ton. Just adding the standard off the shelf air bag kit will give back the capacity lost, but it will take back the added travel gained with the new springs. With Sage and Mike's solution, we retain all the benefits of the new springs (soft ride and added travel) but can level up the truck for pulling the toyhauler to the desert or what have you.
03-30-2007, 10:44 AM
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While not loaded I don't believe the bags will be doing much work. They may need to have 5-10 p.s.i. in them at all times, but for the most part they are just there for the ride until loaded up.
03-30-2007, 10:46 AM
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03-30-2007, 10:48 AM
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Ya my buddy ripped out his rear axle the other day I should get some pics of that ya all would die, and when we all asked him what happened he said he hit a rock????????
03-30-2007, 10:50 AM
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03-30-2007, 10:51 AM
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I'll get you guys some more pics soon. But yes they do compress all the way. We tested them on the Baja 250 course just a few weeks ago.
03-30-2007, 10:57 AM
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I am running 3" king shocks The ride is very controlled.The way Carli has these shocks valved is nothing short of amazing.I have a very smooth ride on the road but can still tackle ANY terrain off road with amazing speed.These are the same shocks that trophy trucks were running a couple years back.
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03-30-2007, 11:04 AM
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Mike,
How do the upper brackets mount to the frame? Do they wrap around the frame or have a leg that sits on top of the frame rail? I ask because I have a B & W Turnover Ball gooseneck hitch, and it sits on top of the frame rail and spans from driver's to passenger's side directly above the axle. The inner side of the frame is clear, but the top and outer side frame is blocked by the hitch. Do you think I could still mount these bags under my truck?
If Sage and Mike say they can.....they can. These guys build stuff that really works, they don't just say they work. They're the type of guys you want working on your ride.
How do the upper brackets mount to the frame? Do they wrap around the frame or have a leg that sits on top of the frame rail? I ask because I have a B & W Turnover Ball gooseneck hitch, and it sits on top of the frame rail and spans from driver's to passenger's side directly above the axle. The inner side of the frame is clear, but the top and outer side frame is blocked by the hitch. Do you think I could still mount these bags under my truck?
If Sage and Mike say they can.....they can. These guys build stuff that really works, they don't just say they work. They're the type of guys you want working on your ride.
03-30-2007, 11:11 AM
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However, I think it was only stated that the bags have 10" of travel. Having 10" of travel and being able to properly use it while inflated are two different things though. I'm just trying to picture what those bags in the pics would look like when fully compressed (10") with air in them. Seems like they would have to "balloon" out quite a bit to get a full 10" of compression out of them, and then the bottom mount wouldn't be large enough to contain/protect the bag.
03-30-2007, 11:18 AM
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I hear ya. These guys definitely have the best reputation possible and I would believe it if they said it.
However, I think it was only stated that the bags have 10" of travel. Having 10" of travel and being able to properly use it while inflated are two different things though. I'm just trying to picture what those bags in the pics would look like when fully compressed (10") with air in them. Seems like they would have to "balloon" out quite a bit to get a full 10" of compression out of them, and then the bottom mount wouldn't be large enough to contain/protect the bag.
However, I think it was only stated that the bags have 10" of travel. Having 10" of travel and being able to properly use it while inflated are two different things though. I'm just trying to picture what those bags in the pics would look like when fully compressed (10") with air in them. Seems like they would have to "balloon" out quite a bit to get a full 10" of compression out of them, and then the bottom mount wouldn't be large enough to contain/protect the bag.
The bottom of the bag actually rolls over the bottom aluminum piece. It's kinda hard to explain I'll have to get you some pics. But, rest assured we have definately put them through their paces.