Dave88LX

Not having much luck yet, still looking. Doesn't need to be a 17", since I will be getting new wheels too. Could be 17/18/19/20...whatever combination works.

I don't necessarily need a 37x12.5, the metric equivalent will work too. I don't think I really want to go much wider than 12.5" on a 3" lift.

What have you guys found? Thanks.

Dave88LX

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/op...-terrain-tires

Toyo Open Country M/T has:
37X13.50R17LT 131Q E/10.....Might be too wide.
37X13.50R22LT 123Q E/10.....Yeah...not buying 22" wheels!

Nitto Trail Grappler
37x12.50R20LT E126Q.....

Interco SS-M16 37x13.5- 17, 18 & 20.....10 ply
http://www.intercotire.com/tires.php?id=2&g=1

Interco SSR 37x12.5-17 and 37x12.5-20.....10 ply
http://www.intercotire.com/tires.php?id=9&g=1

Interco Vortrac 37x12.5- 17, 18 & 20.....10 ply


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Toyo A/T has nothing.
BFG A/T KO is a 'D':
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

Yokohama Geolander A/T-S is a 'D':
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

ProComp A/T is a 'D':
http://www.procompusa.com/prodDetail...0809&plID=3360

Nitto Terra Grapplers are 'D':
http://www.nittotire.com/Tire/terragrappler#size

Rednecktastic

Procomp's website lists the 37x13.50x20 in an E rated tire.


Really need 4.10s for 37's though IMO. And around a 6 inch lift for them to look right.... IMO.

no_6_oh_no

Rebuild your trans first then worry about tires. Without regearing your just beating all the failure points in the driveline.

Dave88LX

OK I see that one now...http://www.procompusa.com/prodDetail...0809&plID=3360

I have heard mixed things about the 3.73 vs 4.10. 6" lift is going to be $4K to do 'right' it seems.

Still reading about it all. If I need to stick with 35" I will.

Rednecktastic

Yeah, mixed opinions my ****. Mall cruiser with 3.73 and 37's = barely ok. Towing with 3.73's and 37's = pretty much impossible unless you want to do like 75 the whole time... Good luck with that, because you won't be able to keep it in the proper rpm range to not bog the motor.

Even not towing I think the rpms will be weird.


3.73's and 35's is almost too much, barely able to tow with them and you have to really watch the rpms to keep it in the right range. Major PITA in hilly areas.

Rednecktastic

And I'm not an expert on 6 inch lifts but can't you get one of the lifts from the name brand guys that use spring spacers, then use their components, then use a set of springs from like thuren. I'd also use some shackles and smaller blocks in the rear to avoid wheelhop.


Do you really need longarms?

Dave88LX

Seriously. Mixed opinions. I've been searching the hell out of it. I would need to look at the RPM ranges.

Dave88LX

I'm far from one. Talking to Don he said it would be about $4K to do a 6" lift properly. 3" is much more affordable. I don't need long arms, I don't think I said anywhere that I did. I think I mentioned 'arms', but not long arms. Just 1/2" longer than stock arms were suggested.

Rednecktastic

Long arms will be a bit more useful with a 6 inch lift which for some reason I though tthat was why the price you are quoting is so high, sorry about the misunderstanding .


http://www.roughcountry.com/dodge_4wd_2500_5x.html

This one is like 1000 bucks. I think I've seen them without springs for a few hundred less. But it looks like it has all the parts you need to properly lift it.



Also, towing rpms for me is 1650+, generally 1650-2200 depending on the terrain. Go below that and it will bog.
That is towing a real trailer, not an ATV trailer.

Rednecktastic

I'd find a kit like that with no springs (maybe a gasser kit is the one without springs??) and no shocks, use the nicer springs from thuren, carli, lorenz, etc. And get Bilstein shocks and stabilizer.


Those 3 guys make good stuff but after you get over 3 inches I don't think there is much performance to be gained by going high end, just make it functional and safe IMO. All those parts from the big name guys like the pitman arms and stuff are good enough.


Topgunz also makes all those parts if you want to piece it together. Just a thought.

Dave88LX

I am pretty thick-headed. Still thinking. Looking at the Toyo M/Ts.

This is the best I've found.
http://www.buywheelstoday.com/produc...ntry+M%2FT.bwt
$311 x 4 (1244) + 194 shipping =
$1438

TOYO M/T 37" x 13.5" R17
$320 x 4 ($1280) + $200 shipping =
$1480


Others....
http://www.tiresdirect.net/TOYO_Open..._50R_P1800.cfm
$330 x 4 (1319) + 196 shipping =
$1515

TOYOOPEN COUNTRY M/T LT Sizes
$362 x 4 (1450) -75 savings +150 shipping =
$1525

http://tirecrawler.com/shop/detail_t...ns_array=Array
$311 x 4 (1246) + 30 fed tax + 270 shipping =
$1548

Amazon.com: Toyo Tires Open Country M/T Mud-Terrain Tire - 37 x 1350R17 131Q: Automotive
$390 x 4 ($1560), + 0 shipping =
$1560

https://www.rimzoneonline.com/catego...en-Country-MT/
$358 x 4 (1431) + 207 shipping
$1639

http://www.superior4x4.com/toopcomt3713.html
$375 x 4 (1501) + 140 shipping =
$1641

Open Country MT Toyo Tires Open Country M/T 37X13.50R17/10 131Q
$377 x 4 ($1508) + 206 shipping =
$1714

Rednecktastic

http://www.topguncustomz.com/Store/G...view=232057580

http://www.topguncustomz.com/Store/p...s.php?S_ID=116

I'd get the soft ride springs and long travel airbags if you need them afterward.

http://www.topguncustomz.com/Store/p...php?S_ID=98002

http://www.topguncustomz.com/Store/G...view=251793988

http://www.topguncustomz.com/Store/p...p?S_ID=1081999

http://www.topguncustomz.com/Store/G...view=212974896


http://thurenfabrication.com/sixinchctdcoils.html




http://marketplaceadvisor.channeladv...gc_3266242.jpg

http://www.topguncustomz.com/Store/p...p?S_ID=5100060




If you want 37's you'll probably have to tow out of overdrive unless you are going like 70+ mph. And 37's look better with bigger rims .

Dave88LX

Ahhhh, you are suggesting a 6" lift for them. It looks like I can do it on a 3" though.

Larger wheels = larger invoice too (yikes!)

Rednecktastic

Yeah 6 inch for 37's and the right backspacing to make it look right.


I think the lift costs are pretty similar. I think most people (like me) only go with the smaller lifts because they are work trucks, like I get in and out of my bed everyday multiple times a day sometimes and tow heavy sometimes so I don't want to be way up in the air..


And yes I'd do a bigger wheel with that much tire. 20's


I dig the smaller wheels but at some point in large tire size you need a bigger wheel. Probably would handle better too by cutting down on the balloon affect!