04.5 motor blown
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Noooo, A PPE HOT on full with a Juice with Attitude stack ... every day no doubt....Must have been a faulty engine.
I go with dropped valve, melted piston(s)....Head gasket should be ok as the super B wouldn't have gotten you over 48psi....but a potential for 30 degrees of timing advance might have done it. Stacking agressive downloader which advances timing all the way with another uncontrolled timing advancer is stupid...I should know.
Engines are easily had for $6000 to $8000 or you can tear off the head and start paying to get an abused engine back to a working used engine. If your pistons are ok...only way to know is to compression test but sometimes the top rings are cracked and that might not fully show...since it just hopefully happened. Might need to remove pistons to accurately check it out... Fun to do if you have a spare engine...not so fun if its your daily drive. ks
I go with dropped valve, melted piston(s)....Head gasket should be ok as the super B wouldn't have gotten you over 48psi....but a potential for 30 degrees of timing advance might have done it. Stacking agressive downloader which advances timing all the way with another uncontrolled timing advancer is stupid...I should know. Engines are easily had for $6000 to $8000 or you can tear off the head and start paying to get an abused engine back to a working used engine. If your pistons are ok...only way to know is to compression test but sometimes the top rings are cracked and that might not fully show...since it just hopefully happened. Might need to remove pistons to accurately check it out... Fun to do if you have a spare engine...not so fun if its your daily drive. ks
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Same kind of thing hapened to me running a crazy larry download .Snaped a exhuast valve at 170,000miles ,didnt melt a piston ect..Had to bore block 25 over rebuilt block and head,also had head ported and polished.
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Maybe not
I know im getting into this pretty late in the game as far as this goes but here is my take on it. As far as the Edge Juice/Attitude goes i asisted in the development of them for the Common Rail and they do have agressive timing and duration to make the power, especialy the "HOT" version. STAY AWAY FROM MORE TIMING! As far as stacking with a SMARTY I say go for it. My dually until this weekend was on 37 inch mudders and now has 40 inch ATs and I use the Smarty along with my Juice/Att. Untill about a month ago I had a stock injection pump and ran the Smarty on #8 (which has NO TIMING),but reflashed with the wildest "WILD TQ MANAGEMENT" program you could download for it. I would also turn my Edge up to level 5 and 5 plus hith the enter button twice to disable all saftey features and run the heck out of it with no problems.Now with a STAGE 3 from Industrial I run the Smarty on MODERATE TQ MANAGEMENT and on Levels #2 & #4. The injection pump make plenty of pressure and on higher settings on the Smarty im putting out the initial flame until higher RPMs. By the way my Juice/Attitude is a prototype "HOT" box which was not released to the public because of how agressive it is and its a 200 HP box. Now before it even gets brought up yes I have the other usual up grades too ( injectors,turbo,intake,exhaust,high arch intake,exhaust manifold,head studs, billet tranny, and so on). As far as running a SMARTY with your EDGE I say go for it. If you would like send me a message and I will let you know a few tuning tricks.
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I know im getting into this pretty late in the game as far as this goes but here is my take on it. As far as the Edge Juice/Attitude goes i asisted in the development of them for the Common Rail and they do have agressive timing and duration to make the power, especialy the "HOT" version. STAY AWAY FROM MORE TIMING! As far as stacking with a SMARTY I say go for it. My dually until this weekend was on 37 inch mudders and now has 40 inch ATs and I use the Smarty along with my Juice/Att. Untill about a month ago I had a stock injection pump and ran the Smarty on #8 (which has NO TIMING),but reflashed with the wildest "WILD TQ MANAGEMENT" program you could download for it. I would also turn my Edge up to level 5 and 5 plus hith the enter button twice to disable all saftey features and run the heck out of it with no problems.Now with a STAGE 3 from Industrial I run the Smarty on MODERATE TQ MANAGEMENT and on Levels #2 & #4. The injection pump make plenty of pressure and on higher settings on the Smarty im putting out the initial flame until higher RPMs. By the way my Juice/Attitude is a prototype "HOT" box which was not released to the public because of how agressive it is and its a 200 HP box. Now before it even gets brought up yes I have the other usual up grades too ( injectors,turbo,intake,exhaust,high arch intake,exhaust manifold,head studs, billet tranny, and so on). As far as running a SMARTY with your EDGE I say go for it. If you would like send me a message and I will let you know a few tuning tricks.
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