mmurray

$5.34 @ O'Reily's...

I ran the enging for about 10 min in Neutral and checked it... Then before adding the 5th quart I drove it about 10 miles. I got it to opperating temp ~175 degrees... I usually run about 184 degrees when driving all day. Do I figured that was close enough. Then checked it in Neutral.

Any Ideas why the manual would say 4 quarts when I'm running 6?

Hounddog

Your good.Call Chrysler on the manual issue. 1-800-992-1997

CamperAndy

It could be the drain down amount. The longer you sit the more oil that drains. I used 7 quarts on my last filter change but I stopped for lunch with it open. If you do the job in 5 minutes you may only need 4 quarts.

Also below is the oil level expansion chart to show the SIGNIFICANT difference in cold and warm oil when doing level checks.

Hounddog

At the price I would guess the Valvoline is a Group three and not really a FULL synthetic.I'll stick with Amsoil.

mmurray

Thanks, Andy

I did let it drain for a while, and it was open and still dripping while I was doing the band adjustment.

Equalizer 2

I bought a couple of quarts from the dealer before Valvoline had it out and I paid a bit over $11 a quart for Mopar.

Hounddog

Thats a WAY overpriced Group three oil.Thats why WalMart sells it for less the half that.

DBLR

When I had mine done Dodge told me it would only take 4 qts and yet it took 6.5 qts to get it back to full at hot temp.

Hounddog,

You are correct that Mopar ATF+4 is made from group III crude oil base stock. I sure wish it was illegal for them to call group III fluids made from crude oil as synthetic.

Hounddog

You can thank the CASTROL folks for that.Mobil sued them over that issue a number of years back and lost. That wording on not full synthics started when Castrol introduced Syntec oils.Its a nomenaclature thing but legal.

coparam4x4

Yep,more legal loop holes that mislead the consumer yet again...Or a least shade us from the true facts.

Hounddog

Back when Syntec came out and the OTHER REAL synthetic oil manufactures started early on to do battle over the wording Amsoil was heading to the lawsuit arena with Castrol.Before they could get there Mobil tied up with them.Then lost.This was according to a from the presidents desk article I read in the Amsoil monthly mag way back when.