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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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Truck is gelled sitting at work in lot, help!

Worked third shift last night and the truck is gelled up since it was -20 below.

I replaced the fuel filter, added diesel 911 to the filter, and the other half to the tank of 911. Waited an hour, tried, and ran the battery down. My dad came and we jumpered and got the truck to fire a few times with the help of ether, but still did not fire.

Any other ideas on what to do..It is in a parking lot with no access to a outlet to plug in. I am hoping the temps will rise enough today and the 911 will loosen stuff up.

Any tips are appreciated.

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by the way, I have been running anti-gel in the fuel. Also, I can't really hear the fuel pump cycle?????
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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How much fuel do you have in the tank ? I would get at least 4 or 5 gallons of kerosene and dump it in the tank. It will take a lot of cranking to get it started unless you put it in a warm shop.

A tow truck might be your best choice. You are risking a new starter from cranking.

Also DO NOT use ether, at all, never, ever. You will blow your intake off.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Try adding more anti-gel per tank.

Also, is there any way possible you can plug your truck in?
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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You have 2 options. Plug it in or tow it somewhere and get it warm. The fuel is probably gelled up in the rails/injectors and you need to get them warm. The 911 will not do anything if it cant reach the gelled parts.

I have had my truck gel at 10* two times this year I have tried Polar Power and Power Service and they still gelled.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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The diesel stop will not instantly degel your fuel. It mixes with the warm fuel and then does its job. Try the kerosene. Sorry we were only 100 degrees warmer than you yesterday.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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If you could get a small generator and plug it in for 4 to 6 hours would help tremendously or a warm shop. Tow truck is cheaper than a new starter...
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Reminds me of when I was young. In Utah as a kid, I would build small fires under the oil pan of the D9 tractors to warm them up when we were in the field working. It didn't take much to warm them If you have access to a small generator and a heat shrink gun, you can warm the lines slowly.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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I live in an area where -40 is normal and have never had the diesel gel but have had it stumble and not start due to the oil being too thick. Heres what you do if you are not around a plug in or suspect your block heater is not working. Take a tiger torch and a 6' length of black stove pipe, place the torch just into the stove pipe and fire it up adjust the flame in order to keep all flame inside the pipe aim towards oil pan but not directly at pan as heat can be very hot. Keep hood closed and this will heat up all engine components in about 10-20 min keep a very close eye on the flame and be sure you have no fuel leaks. I accept no responsibility for any mishaps but you do what you gotta do when its cold and no way of plugging in. Hope this helps.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Being I knew the cold was coming and even thou our fuel is said to be winter ready I added 1/3 qt of Howes to my tank. With it hitting -29 below zero last night I had no gel problem even when the temps -11 below was the warmest I saw while I was out and about.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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Sorry, but I don't know how you guys do it. I don't ever want to live in a place where my fuel freezes. That is punishing! We hit in the 60's today and had the windows down
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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Unfortunately I agree, towing. Mine gelled up for the first time bout a month ago. Was fortunate enough to be home, was able to get inside barn (pushed/pulled with another truck) had a tarp big enough to cover entire truck and put heat lamps and shop lamps under hood and under truck along fuel lines. Took all day, but did the trick.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowhemi
Sorry, but I don't know how you guys do it. I don't ever want to live in a place where my fuel freezes. That is punishing! We hit in the 60's today and had the windows down
I hear ya.... ME TOO!!!!! LOL.... Talked with Lloyd M. the other day and he was teasing me about snow....you know the white stuff that falls out of the sky and sticks to everything..... Told him I ain't never seen the stuff......
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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Go the kerosene route prior to the freeze up. I have 2 diesel Volkswagens. I put at least a gallon of kerosene(#1 diesel) per tank(15 gal tank) when I know it's getting close to 0. -23 last night and the Beetle started up. Generator and plugged in is my choice to fix your truck.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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where do you get kerosene at? Is it still from a pump or in a can/bucket now?
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by HecTiK
where do you get kerosene at? Is it still from a pump or in a can/bucket now?
I've only seen a select few stations that sell Kerosene out of the pump.

You can buy it by the gallons at any local supply store. I don't know if you have a Mills Fleet out there but they stock it, check Home Depot or Menards.
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