One of my techs got back from training yesterday and said the instructor talked about a recall on the 98.5 to 2004 lift pumps.He said new fuel tanks and lines and intank pump....this will be a big messy recall...bout time though. Hope it happens and not just a story.

 

Interesting. Please keep us posted.

 

I don't believe DC would issue a recall on this without a government mandate. It's hard enough as it is for DC to even honor the warranty.

 

I'll believe that one when I get my notice in the mail.

 

I highly doubt there will be a recall on all from 98.5-04. The 98.5-2002 use a different pump than 03-04 models. That would also open them up to having to honor refund checks for those of us that had to fork over money for multiple lift pump replacments, can you say BIG BUCKS. I definetly will not be holding my breath waiting for my refund check for 5 lift pumps.

Don't take my post as sarcasizm toward you, just DC. Thanks for the information.

 

Will it be a "recall", or a TSB when a problem arises??

 

heard thru the grapevine that Cummins may have Bosch recalling all VP44 pump built before 1-1-2004, if your serial number starts with a 4 , then you are ok, that is the pump serial number.

 

I thought Cummins stopped using the VP44 back in the middle of 2002. Unless it's used in other applications (not Dodges).

MikeyB

 

Pretty easy way to tell if this is true or not.

Does a Failed VP44 pose any significant safety risk? None that I know of.Therefore, it will not be recalled as that is the ONLY reason they will issue a recall.

Things that cause a fire, a wreck, lose of power, etc.

You could argue that losing power in the middle of a busy highway is a safety hazard, but they wont buy it.

 

Vehicles stalling can be considered a safety risk and there have been many recalls on other brands of cars for this. The dealer I work for (non-DC) has had several recalls over the years for stalling issues. One recent one was for corrosion in fuel pump connectors causing stalling which could lead to an accident. Don't forget that a stalled vehicle loses Power steering as well as power brakes and some people can not maintain control of a vehicle under certain circumstances without power assist, let alone the vehcile being stopped dead in the middle of the road around a blind corner. So it is definitly possible. Also there are what manufactures call "voluntary" recalls in which they try to be proactive and issue a recall that is not really been implemented by the government because they are trying to cover their buts, knowing that it could turn into a gov't implemented recall, by saying "we did it before the Gov't, so aren't we being nice?" I could come up with quite a few examples of recalls that were not really directly safety related but could cause stalling meaning car would be a hazard stuck in middle of road. I believe there was also a recall on Nissans for throttle body icing that would cause idle valve to become plugged and stall, however it has been a while since I worked for Nissan and can't remember what model it was. It's all about how many people complain to the Gov't and also give a reason why it is a safety issue (again car in middle of highway can be a hazard to other drivers) . If the gov't recieves enough common complaints and agrees with why it is a potential safety issue then a recall is issued. If the gov't only recieves a small number of complaints of the same things then they don't consider it wide spread enough to issue a recall. Everyone who has had problems contact the Gov't agency (can be done online usually) and file a complaint for possible recall action. Again this may be either Dodge or Bosch looking at issuing a voluntary recall so that they don't look bad in the media, or like someone else here said they may just be issuing a TSB that the correction is more involved that just replacing the pump to provide long term reliability. Either way time will tell and hopefully a good work around is implemented

Cheers,

 

It seems to me that Western Canada has been affected more with lift pump failures. If it was a common wide spread failure throught North America I could see some kind of recall/TSB. DC could pigeon hole the fuel up here for the problems and avoid being responsible

 

They dont just issue recalls for safety anymore, lots of them are "customer satisfaction" recalls. I find it hard to believe that they'll recall 98.5 - 02's now , but i hope we find out soon. My tech said the instuctor suggested that the dealerships only keep a minimal stock of lift pumps on hand.

 

I stand corrected. I wasn't aware of the other recalls regarding stalling.

Even so, I dont see this happening in any way unless the Government forces it. What would they replace it with? I think they would have to redo a significant portion of the fuel system and that would mean big bucks.

 

Wish it were true, can't see it likely happening though. As stated it just isn't that big of a safety issue that they would be recalling 7 year old trucks to replace components.

Where is Shovel with his Snopes when you need him.

 

this recall if it happens is not just because of Dodge installation, this impacts all medium trucks engines. it may not even involve the dodge ISB.