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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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Help on new truck

Got the new 04 on Sat. and now have 112 miles on it and need advice. When I go to start it hot or cold it seems to crank a bit before it catches. Even had to turn the key twice to get it to light and had a little white smoke. My 02 fired as soon as I hit the key ?? Your input would be appreciated
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:12 PM
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No wonder, you live in Kuna. If you lived north of Boise it would start right up. :

mine starts right up. Do you wait for the coil light on the dash to go out before you start it? That indicates the grid heater has warmed things up

Congrats on the new truck. I hope.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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Thanks for the reply. I watch for the light and even checked to make sure the lift pump came on for the 2 seconds after the key gets turned on. Sounds like I better call the dealer.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Check the gas. If it smells like gas, then you've got a big problem.
Sorry I'm not more help. I'd call the dealer tomorrow. I've had mine out in some fairly cool weather in central Oregon and it just starts right up, even with the winter diesel.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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I would also get it checked out, mine fired up at 5:00 am in januarry at 0 degrees, without being plugged in
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Mine cranks a few seconds longer than I expected before starting, I assumed this is normal. My other fuel injected (non-diesels) vehicles always start very quickly. What is normal?
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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I have to hold my key on for 2.5 to 3 seconds for it fire as well..... I figured it was normal.......... Maybe not??
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Mine fires right up.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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My truck also starts up very quickly, no cranking and I live in Ontario.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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The '03 and '04 trucks require the engine to rotate some amount to provide the computer enough information to know the position of the crank, and then the computer can synchronize the injection cycle with the position of the piston. Because of this, the new trucks will take slightly longer to fire.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by tony
The '03 and '04 trucks require the engine to rotate some amount to provide the computer enough information to know the position of the crank, and then the computer can synchronize the injection cycle with the position of the piston. Because of this, the new trucks will take slightly longer to fire.
Tony is correct. WHen they just fire right up, it is because the engine was stopped at a point that allowed the computer to move to the next step in the starting sequence.

When it cranks a bit, it is because the computer is gathering the necessary data it needs before firing.

It is frustrating. My 1st and 2nd gen trucks would always fire immeadiately. 3rd gen trucks sometimes have to crank.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Hey Tony and Mymaur thank you for the intelligent response. I called two dealers here in the Treasure Valley and got two different answers. One told me its ok and if the check engine light doesn't come on its ok. The other dealer told me one I'm still laughing about. He said that the fuel goes through a line heater and it takes longer to reach the injectors. WOW !! Not even people from Kuna would believe that one. But it was a good laugh anyway. I guess I'm just used to the Ol' 02 still but this new truck is starting to grow on me already, it is impressive to say the least and the last of the no smoggers !!!!
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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Hey Tony and Mymaur thank you for the intelligent response. I called two dealers here in the Treasure Valley and got two different answers. One told me its ok and if the check engine light doesn't come on its ok. The other dealer told me one I'm still laughing about. He said that the fuel goes through a line heater and it takes longer to reach the injectors. WOW !! Not even people from Kuna would believe that one. But it was a good laugh anyway. I guess I'm just used to the Ol' 02 still but this new truck is starting to grow on me already, it is impressive to say the least and the last of the no smoggers !!!!
Yea, this dealer probably will tell you that the SO motor doesn't have a turbo. RUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by tony
The '03 and '04 trucks require the engine to rotate some amount to provide the computer enough information to know the position of the crank, and then the computer can synchronize the injection cycle with the position of the piston. Because of this, the new trucks will take slightly longer to fire.
Exactly ! I know how you feel as my '00 2500 Quad Cab 4x4 always cranked right up by just almost "bumping" the starter. I've gotten use to it now.
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