help with hauling numbers. can i do this
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help with hauling numbers. can i do this
a friend of mine came into a wally-mo 3 car hauler. The dang thing is about 45 foot long and weighs around 7k pounds and attatches by goosneck. I have a 2005 dodge 2500 with timbrens. I think the towing capacity of my truck is around 14k, sounds like I would not be able to use my single wheel truck to haul cars on that trailer, any thoughts would be appreciated. Trying to find a way to make some money.
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Not the law, but the limitation is the rear tires. Put some cars on it and weigh it to see if the tires can handle it. 19.5 tires and wheels can, as well as other tires that rate at near 3500 per tire.
The answer is yes but you have to set up for it. Florida has made some changes in goose neck hauling better check and see what is legal. You can get an annual overlength permit to take xare of that.
The answer is yes but you have to set up for it. Florida has made some changes in goose neck hauling better check and see what is legal. You can get an annual overlength permit to take xare of that.
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I would look into it hard before i invested too much.
didn't Bill Heard just close 5 car dealerships in that area?
got friends in car business in St Marys GA, and they report it is VERY SLOW.
i doubt you would be able to get your foot in the door with times so hard, and profit margins being slim.
fees & insurance and permits to do it legal, make it unprofitable, is what i have been told
www.hotshothauling.com or something like that.
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didn't Bill Heard just close 5 car dealerships in that area?
got friends in car business in St Marys GA, and they report it is VERY SLOW.
i doubt you would be able to get your foot in the door with times so hard, and profit margins being slim.
fees & insurance and permits to do it legal, make it unprofitable, is what i have been told
www.hotshothauling.com or something like that.
hth
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He is right ya know. Today with the poor economy and trucks going out of business all over, not such a hot time to start. As he said, especially if you do it all legal. Insurance is big as are truck payments.
I run six cars, in the Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee area, yep slow. I was scheduled for a run to Atlanta today, he bought no cars... so no run. Might get a 100 mile trip from Fort Payne on Thrusday. See bad week, better look at it good. See I have it made, small truck payment, no other expenses, mortgage and whatnot. Single, live alone. I would not want to be supporting a family on what is out there right now.
I run six cars, in the Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee area, yep slow. I was scheduled for a run to Atlanta today, he bought no cars... so no run. Might get a 100 mile trip from Fort Payne on Thrusday. See bad week, better look at it good. See I have it made, small truck payment, no other expenses, mortgage and whatnot. Single, live alone. I would not want to be supporting a family on what is out there right now.
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I run my own car lot and things are not slow but I have very low overhead.
As far as your question, I would not try to run a three car on a SRW 3/4 ton truck. When you put cars on there it will be a full load for that truck and then some. I have a 3500 DRW and just sold my three car to drop down to two because it wasn't worth the hassle of getting stopped, staying underweight was a problem, running log books, etc, etc. I run a two car trailer and I am usually left alone. What works for me is to stay local. The cars I haul are mine so I dont need crazy insurance (not going to claim damage against myself) or any of the other stuff that just ends up being an expensive huge headache.
As far as your question, I would not try to run a three car on a SRW 3/4 ton truck. When you put cars on there it will be a full load for that truck and then some. I have a 3500 DRW and just sold my three car to drop down to two because it wasn't worth the hassle of getting stopped, staying underweight was a problem, running log books, etc, etc. I run a two car trailer and I am usually left alone. What works for me is to stay local. The cars I haul are mine so I dont need crazy insurance (not going to claim damage against myself) or any of the other stuff that just ends up being an expensive huge headache.
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you don't have to have a dual rear wheel if you look @ the door sticker from a single rear wheel vs. dual rear wheel you can haul more with the single rear wheel according to the manufacture. i was told this is due to the extra weight the other to wheels add.
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Single rear wheel with gooseneck loaded = death grip on steering wheel.
Dually with gooseneck loaded = comfortable one finger driving.
Running with all the required paperwork and proper insurance = priceless.
Dually with gooseneck loaded = comfortable one finger driving.
Running with all the required paperwork and proper insurance = priceless.
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Not true at all. Single rear wheel has nothing to do with it, the capacity of the rear tires does. If you have the proper tires and suspension on the single wheel it tows as well as a dually.
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Haulin,
Not trying to start a fight but it just makes no sense to me that a 3/4 ton SRW with only one tire on each side of the rear can tow or handle as much or MORE than a DRW 1 Ton with 4 tires to support the weight of a trailer. In addition to the weight difference of a 3/4 to and 1 ton you have two additional tires in ther rear for reducing the impact of blowout situations, and the obvious braking and traction effect impacts while towing. What am I missing? With the analogy that a 3/4 ton truck can tow as well as or better than a 1 ton then we should all get S-10s or Izuzu Pups to tow. Not trying to be a wise crack but this makes absolutely no sense. I have towed a fully loaded 3 car trailer and they are extremely heavy and it is hard enough with a 1 ton dually with a full load, I could never imagine towing a 7000 pound trailer with three cars weighing an average of 3500 (10500 total) with a truck that has only two wheels in the rear. Again, what am I missing?
Not trying to start a fight but it just makes no sense to me that a 3/4 ton SRW with only one tire on each side of the rear can tow or handle as much or MORE than a DRW 1 Ton with 4 tires to support the weight of a trailer. In addition to the weight difference of a 3/4 to and 1 ton you have two additional tires in ther rear for reducing the impact of blowout situations, and the obvious braking and traction effect impacts while towing. What am I missing? With the analogy that a 3/4 ton truck can tow as well as or better than a 1 ton then we should all get S-10s or Izuzu Pups to tow. Not trying to be a wise crack but this makes absolutely no sense. I have towed a fully loaded 3 car trailer and they are extremely heavy and it is hard enough with a 1 ton dually with a full load, I could never imagine towing a 7000 pound trailer with three cars weighing an average of 3500 (10500 total) with a truck that has only two wheels in the rear. Again, what am I missing?
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What you are missing is experience on the issue. I have it so can state these facts. A Goodyear G159 or 614 tire is rated for 3500 pounds and a pair will handle 8000 easily. A 19.5 tire can be had up to 6000 pounds and change. Later I converted to dually and found no major handling improvement. Never had a blow out or a flat.
See you can forget about the numbers that the factory puts on the truck. A second gen 3/4 ton is the same as a one ton except for the dual wheels. If you have the same spring count and the helper leafs from the camper package, the tires are the only difference in capacity.
The older members on here know that I towed many thousands of miles with a 2500, single wheel, grossing 30K and more. There used to be pictures on here of three ford pickups on my trailer with the 2500 pulling it. Used to haul Southern comfort conversion vans and pickups all over the country. Never had an issue except for a tonneue cover blown off. Now I haul six cars with the big truck, work less hours, make more money.
See you can forget about the numbers that the factory puts on the truck. A second gen 3/4 ton is the same as a one ton except for the dual wheels. If you have the same spring count and the helper leafs from the camper package, the tires are the only difference in capacity.
The older members on here know that I towed many thousands of miles with a 2500, single wheel, grossing 30K and more. There used to be pictures on here of three ford pickups on my trailer with the 2500 pulling it. Used to haul Southern comfort conversion vans and pickups all over the country. Never had an issue except for a tonneue cover blown off. Now I haul six cars with the big truck, work less hours, make more money.
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I've hauled a lot of gooseneck/fifth wheel miles with a 3/4 single rear wheel, and with a 1 ton dually, and to me there is a HUGE difference. With the SRW I always had a death grip on the steering wheel as cross winds blew me around the roadway or going around big rigs. With the dually I can almost sleep my way through it. They are much more stable on the road.
I am not trying to start a fight either, but I far prefer the dually for heavy hauling. For me it's a no-brainer. I never knew what I was missing until I finally bought a dually.
I know we're getting off topic here, and he was asking about a weight issue, so I'll crawl back in my hole now.
I am not trying to start a fight either, but I far prefer the dually for heavy hauling. For me it's a no-brainer. I never knew what I was missing until I finally bought a dually.
I know we're getting off topic here, and he was asking about a weight issue, so I'll crawl back in my hole now.
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Issue here is the guy that was in the original post does not have 19.5s and is not driving a second Gen. He has a lift and a 2500, although he does have timbrens. Suffice to say if he was going to attempt to pull a 45 foot 3 car hauler weighing in at anywhere from 20-25K, it would behoove him to make some changes to his rig. In stock form, the DRW is the way to go.
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Even with my limited experience the one requesting the info does not have 19.5 tires. Also, he really does need to pay attention to the sticker on the door frame of the truck since that's exactly where the DOT officer is going to look when he pulls you over. It has happened to me in the past and even though I do not tow for a living full time, I am an Army trained trucker and have been hauling worldwide just about anything anywhere. Been at that for 19+ years and have been towing for my side business about 10 years. Eventhough I do not have as much experience as others it is fairly extensive. I also have owned and towed the rig he specifically talked about and you could not pay me to take that setup down the road with a 3/4 SRW, just unsafe in my opinion. With that setup you would be asking to get pulled over in just about any state. It would only be a matter of time that you would either get shut down or have an accident unless you were either very careful or VERY lucky. Again, these are just my opinions and they may not be shared by others but if you are going to hook roughly 18K of cargo and trailer behind you use some common sense and rig it up properly and do it right or you are asking to jepordize the safety of yourself and others that can end up costing lives and lots of money. Just my opinion guys, I am not taking this personally, please dont take what I say personally. Everyone has a different level of comfort when risk is involved.