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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 12:41 AM
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I get mine from Peterbuilt $10.25 a piece. 5 micron.
**** thats a great price...is that in CAD?
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 03:41 AM
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I know the owner of AFE, and to my knowledge, they produce one that is 3micron... the Pro Guard D2. This is to the best of my knowledge.
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If possible,could you ask the owner what the specs are on the D2 fuel filter and the method used to rate it ? Is the D2 a water separator?

The Baldwin PF7977 and the Fleetguard Stratapore are water separators. A great deal of information in regards to filtration was researched and provided by DTR member ah64id and those findings were posted.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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3 Micron huh, havent heard that yet. Any more info on this filter? Do they come straight from AFE or is there a dealer network and how much do they cost?
I got mine directly from the AFE warehouse, in Corona, CA, but I believe you should be able to purchase them online from their website at www.afepower.com or at other sites that carry their products. The regular fuel filter is $16.80 and the high efficiency one is $20.99
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lawdog79
I got mine directly from the AFE warehouse, in Corona, CA, but I believe you should be able to purchase them online from their website at www.afepower.com or at other sites that carry their products. The regular fuel filter is $16.80 and the high efficiency one is $20.99
I checked the website but it doesnt say anything about what level the D2 filters to. I assume that the D2 is also a water seperator? Really interested in this filter.

On edit, I did find the data sheet for the 3 Micron rating under product details. Ordering now and taking the NAPA gold back!!!

Second edit...$10+ for shipping...think I will look for a local dealer. Good thing I dont need to replace mine for another 23K miles...
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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You can get the Baldwin at Grainger as well. I get them for $6.38 ea with my company discount.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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Peterbuilt shop here.
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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What is the Wix H.E. rated at??
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Old Sep 25, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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Everyone get hung up on the numbers/micron rating. That's all good and that but there is a major difference in the ratings. You have to know what the filter is rated at - nominal compared to absolute. Think of it as the ability of the filter to reach that micron rating in the first pass or repeated passes. Just because filter A says 3 microns and filter B is 5 microns is that absolute or nominal? Also the water stripping effectiveness is a major consideration in a common rail filter. The filter media construction is very important with water filtration. Synthetic fiber do a much better job compared to cellulose ( wood fiber). Think of it how much water can it resist absorbing, like a good rain coat or a diaper.... Buyer beware with the numbers game
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by N.Johnson
Everyone get hung up on the numbers/micron rating. That's all good and that but there is a major difference in the ratings. You have to know what the filter is rated at - nominal compared to absolute. Think of it as the ability of the filter to reach that micron rating in the first pass or repeated passes. Just because filter A says 3 microns and filter B is 5 microns is that absolute or nominal? Also the water stripping effectiveness is a major consideration in a common rail filter. The filter media construction is very important with water filtration. Synthetic fiber do a much better job compared to cellulose ( wood fiber). Think of it how much water can it resist absorbing, like a good rain coat or a diaper.... Buyer beware with the numbers game
Sounds interesting, break it down for me, what do you run?
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dieseloutlaw1
What is the Wix H.E. rated at??
If its the same filter as the Napa Gold XE it is 7 micron.
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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Here is an older post by ah64id at dieseltruckresource.com. This is all of his hard work and not mine. BTW both Fleetguard and Baldwin are water separators aka they remove water from diesel fuel unlike some fuel filters on the market.


So after reading a few threads on fuel filters and getting conflicting information I did some more research. As it stands right now I can only find 2 fuel filters that meet current CR specs. Fleetguard, (Cummins/Mopar), Donaldson P550800 and Baldwin. Wix isn’t close.

Current specs, based on TSB 14-007-06 5.9 CR motors require a 7 micron absolute filter. While the TSB only talks about MY06-07 I called several dealerships and asked for fuel filter PN's for older than 06 trucks, all come up with 68001914AA, the new 7-micron absolute filter. So the searching began.



The Fleetguard FS18000E is absolute at 7 microns (96% efficient at 5 microns) but the gasket isn’t ULSD compatible, so use FS19856 (same filter different gasket)...this is the OEM filter. Has a 14 gr. dirt holding capacity


Baldwin PF7977 is nominal at 1-2 microns and absolute at 5 microns, has a 24gr dirt holding capacity.

Donaldson P550800 meets the new OE spec.

The Wix 33585XE is nominal at 7 microns. Wix 33585 is nominal at 10 microns.

I am sure there are other filters being used but those are the big ones I know of.


Absolute is 98.7% efficiency and nominal is 50% efficiency.

I have also read, but not verified, that Bosch specs a 5-micron filter for the CP3, and that GM now uses a 2-micron filter.

Update:

I currently have a Baldwin 5 micron in my 2005 truck.

I called and talked with Donaldson and they had no clue that the specs had changed, and since the sell the Fleetguard filter with there name on it I would expect to see them carry the newer filter soon. The same is with Amsoil, they had no clue about the change, and were actually specking WIX filters, which appear to be the worst of the bunch... that should be changing
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Old Sep 28, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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I just found the Baldwin PF7977 on www.blinefilters.com for $11.61 each.
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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Just ordered the AFE D2 off Ebay, made an offer of $13.05 with $9.95 shipping, guess we will give it a try.

On a side note, when I returned the Napa Gold XE filter the counter jockey told me that there wasnt a standard when testing fuel filters, so his 7 nominal could be better than others 5 or 3 absolute...anyone know if there is truth to this or is there a standard?
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Check with Geno's Garage
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Old Oct 2, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by psd1
Just ordered the AFE D2 off Ebay, made an offer of $13.05 with $9.95 shipping, guess we will give it a try.


That D2 at $23.00 after shipping charges does not seem to be a very cost effective option over the Baldwin which is a fuel filter/water separator. You may want to contact the technical services department at AFE and inquire about the water separating qualities of the D2 or lack of, prior to your purchase.

On a side note, when I returned the Napa Gold XE filter the counter jockey told me that there wasnt a standard when testing fuel filters, so his 7 nominal could be better than others 5 or 3 absolute...anyone know if there is truth to this or is there a standard?
See post 26, then perform a search.

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