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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Tp filtration is possibly the best system out there... and the simplest... and the cheapest... Toilet paper is very clean, and when oil is added, it becomes very strong, unlike when water is involved. Almost all stock type fuel and oil filters use a "paper" like media.... So why would you think TP is bad?
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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that looks really good.....
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Right on. To each his own.

FYI, Bob doesn't recommend a thing...BITOG is just the name of the forum just as this forum is called Diesel Truck Resource, but the people over there tend to know a little more than the average person when it comes to oil and filtration.

I just wanted to make sure that people didn't believe that TP would actually go into the oil. That's pure bunk. TP filters have been used for many, many years and have proven themselves with great UOA's and particle counts.

Back when I had a TP filter on my ferd 6.0 my oil was said to "look as clean or cleaner than new oil out of the bottle" per Butler Labs on one of my UOA's (7000 miles on the sample). So, TP has more than "some filtration" with it as you claim.

It's only fair for people to know both sides of the story and not believe everything that one person claims. I've tested dang near every oil under the sun so I'd like to think that I'm somewhat educated on oils and what different filtration systems have to offer.

By the way, Amsoil isn't TP filtration.....I assume you know that.
Well yes, I do know that. You posted right when I was editing. It was a typo as you can see by the post now.

I never claimed anything. I'm sure TP does work but, you can not tell me the lint doesn't become a part of the oil.

I also never said Amsoil is a TP filtration. Your sig is what I was referring to.

Personally, I think the people at these forum are much too **** about which and what is used. There's a lot of good products out there. FS2500's video is what I base my decision on. Sure, it could have been padded but, they do have oil analyst to show what it does. Now, at 5000 miles when I do a oil analyst, if there's a problem... I'll look into something else.

I'm not one to follow to herd.
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by trik396
Tp filtration is possibly the best system out there... and the simplest... and the cheapest... Toilet paper is very clean, and when oil is added, it becomes very strong, unlike when water is involved. Almost all stock type fuel and oil filters use a "paper" like media.... So why would you think TP is bad?
I'm not dissing TP, I just said, it's not the filtration for me. All you have to do is beat a roll of TP in the air to see what comes out of it. Sure, a lot of media out there is made from paper but then, there's a lot that use newer technologies like synthetic fiber.

To me TO seems very restrictive because of how dense it is. No, I haven't been in a lab to see the differences in all the different filter and I really doubt many at these forums have either. It's all about following what everyone else does.

I posted a question about using a stainless steel filter by Pure Power. You wouldn't believe the negitive remarks made. I think it's because most have never heard of using a SS filter.

I have a KTM dirt bike that off the show room floor is a all out racing machine. I've used SS filters in it since new and my oil couldn't be any cleaner.

I ended up not using it because I don't know diesel motors as well as I do my bikes motor. Because it's written on Bob the oil guys site doesn't mean that what everyone should do !
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by goodeyesniper75
that looks really good.....
thank you sir. that's all the post was about... to let other see your can buy something else besides TP and Amsoil to filter their trucks.

This wasn't suppose to be about who makes the better filter but, another way to install a filter ;-)
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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Triton,

Good for you. Your setup looks great.

I too wasn't debating which filter is the best, but rather correcting some of your incorrect statements on TP filtration.

I never put down the FS2500. You did feel the need to tell me that you didn't have the highest opinion of Amsoil's bypass setup, which is fine.

By the way, restriction is what you want in a bypass filter (that's why every bypass filter has a restrictor orifice on it). You want the oil to slowly pass through dense media to super clean it. Your FS2500 has a restrictor on it also.

I'll reiterate again.....I was simply correcting some of your statements about TP filtration not debating on which system is the best.

IMO, whether you have a Motor Guard, Frantz, Amsoil, FS2500, Puradyn, Oil Guard, Spinner Centrifuge bypass, etc....you are going to get MUCH better filtration then the factory full flow. That's why we have bypass fiters on our vehicles to begin with, right?
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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dude... I said TOO restrictive as in barely can flow. I don't think you want a big soaked plug! Yes, I do know there the FS has a restrictor as with any by-pass and will only pass as much oil as it will let through.

What I don't understand is... you asked for a picture of the filter, then you go on to claim I didn't do my research?? I only said TP is not for me. You make it sound as if I did my research... I would have found that TP is the only way to go. In my opinion.... it's a old school method.

You seem to be a real advocate of TP and yet, you're not using it. If it's so good why do you use Amsoil ?

You're concerned about my statement and yet you seem to believe everything said on the oil forum. Who's to say what's said there should be believed?

The bottom line is.... our truck can run their entire life without a by-pass filter and or a fuel filter. Worrying about microns that can only be seem under a microscope seems a bit overboard. Filters obviously have their merits though which is why I'm using one. Your typical auto consumer would never even think they had to do more to their truck after paying upward of 50K on it and many don't but still have 200K on their vehicles.

I have an complete stock International with over 100K that has never had anything done but the oil changed.
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Do you know what size fittings and hose you used on your setup? I shopped around and way to many size options! uuughh
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tacook
Do you know what size fittings and hose you used on your setup? I shopped around and way to many size options! uuughh
I used -6 AN fittings and hose. You really don't need it any bigger than -4 AN but, I had some fittings lying around I wanted to use.

All the female ports on the filter are 1/4" NPT. The port on the OEM oil filter housing is 1/8" NPT and the valve cover cap uses a 1/8" NPT
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 11:09 PM
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tritont, that looks great, is that a custom bracket, or does it come with the kit? Also I was looking at their website and didnt see one installed on a Dodge, so where do they mount and hook up to if you get the lines also? TIA!
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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the bracket comes with the kit. It uses the existing threaded holes in the block right in front of the fuel rail.

You can get a kit here and the instructions w/ pictures are included.

http://www.accuratediesel.com/shop/c...=12.21.229.204

they aren't cheap but are built like a tank. You can find just the housing on ebay then make your own hoses if you want to go that route. Tim at Accurate Diesel may also sell you individual pieces ?
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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i wnet with the amsoil bmk-11 set up, myself.

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ghlight=bmk-11
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Tritont...
If you are new to this filter, do not expect it to keep your oil clean like the ad says it will. The 3rd gen CTD produce a much smaller soot particle and therefore will color your oil black. That does not mean that the filter is not working, hardly, just that the soot particles are small and have little or no adverse affect on the engine. The factory is working on a finer filter
.03 to .07 micron which will keep the oil as new and as advertised. I have put 20K on an oil change (Mobil One Delvac) and the sample came back with a good report. I put about 5500 miles per month and I have paid for my filter
more than once in savings.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Tridont- Oil sample picture?

Tridont, How many miles do you have on your FS2500 now? would we be able to see a picture of what your oil looks like? FYI, I am lookinh into ordering one sometime this week!
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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Tridont, I have a quick question if you don't mind. Can you still get to the fuel filter to drain/change very easily after the FS2500 install? Thanks.
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