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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Unhappy Embarassed and concerned, I put gas in my diesel

I made it to the gast station after work on "E". I hastily threw the premium nozzle in my truck and pumped 31.008 gallons ($92 bucks worth) of premium uleaded into my 2006 Dodge 2500 DIESEL! I drove home (about a quarter mile) and had no idea what I had done to that point (runnin fine when I shut her down). I parked it and returned to use it 6 hours later. I started it. it started hard and ran ruff so I shut it down. I checked with some friends who suggested I might have water in my fuel (still not realizing I Edited up). I opened the valve on the fuel filter and drained about 14 ounces of yellow fluid into a clear plastic bottle. I began to realize what I did. I smelled the liquid and sure enough, it was gas (crap!). I checked my receipt and sure enough, it showed that I pumped prem. unleaded and NOT D2 (diesel). So.....I siphoned the diesel out (as much as possible) and then bled the the lines (up to the injectors). I filled the tank with diesel (30 plus gallons, and yes, I am sure, but it is a fair question) and Diesel 911 (an additive). I then ensured that diesel was flowing up to the filter (and out the drain valve) into a clear bottle and it was in fact diesel and not gas or a diluted mix of gas and diesel. I then ensured that diesel was getting from the filter to the pump then to the rail and up to the injectors. I put a new fuel filter in it and primed that with diesel. I tried to start it and it turns over, but will not fire off. I have three codes up on the dash (p0069 which says that "The boost pressure recorded at key on is not within a calibrated range from the inlet air pressure sensor") The other two codes are P0073 "Ambient Temperature Sensor High" and P0107 "Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Low". I disconnected the battery cables and waited about 15 minutes before reconnecting and checked my fuses and electrical connections to the fue filter, fuel pump, air intake and manifold. I tried the key 3 Xs and got the same codes. I tried to start it again and it was a no go. What do I do now??
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Although i cannot tell you exactly what to do-some on here might have a lot better idea than i-but if you were to crack an injector line-and cycle the system it might help you to let it fire.
My brother did the same thing-although he was able to restart his truck after filling it with diesel. Truck worked fine for a week or 2, but then some sensors needed to be replaced. His was a dmax-so a little different. I would wonder if you could get your hands on a code reader and wipe the comp clean. The computer might be keeping it from injecting with those codes on.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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how long did you crank it after you hooked the battery up?
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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several times before I disconnected the battery (not for more than 30 seconds) once after the disconnect trick and for about 10 seconds.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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just as an example-when i change my fuel filter, i have to crank the truck for what feel like an eternity-but is probably in the 10 second range. That is only filling a very small portion of lost fuel from downstream of the filter. You may want to crank longer-in short spurts to prevent burning out your starter.....there's a lot of fuel that needs to be flushed....
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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Disconnect the grid heaters and see if it will start with a shot of ether. If you can get it running that will tell you if you have bigger problems.

It may or may not clear up after running diesel thru it for a bit. You ran it long enough you could have hung some of the components in the CP3 and\or injectors to the point where it will not build enough rail pressure to start. MAYBE getting diesel and conditioner thru it may help.

Otherwise, I think you may have some serious fuel system issues.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Not fully primed yet?

When I change my fuel filters, stock canister and fleetguard 2 micron additional, I have to turn the key to the "prime" position so the fuel pump will run and let the pump prime the system. As the pump only runs for about 30 seconds or so I have to do this 6-7 times before my system will prime after having emptied the filters and fuel bowl.

You just may not be fully primed yet. I wouldn't crack an injector line to prime the system, CR develope dangerous PSI pressures and the injectors are self primming anyways. Your just trying to get good fuel PSI us to the CP3.

As far as running 1/4 mile on premuim gas, I wouldn't get to concerned, nor would I make it a habit.. If you didn't get the tank completely emptied of gasoline I would dump a pint of ashless 2 cycle oil in the fuel tank and call it good.

As far as the codes go, either you had it cranking so long without firing that it threw a code or you unplugged or disturbed an electrical connection while changing filters and bleeding/priming the CP3/rail??
I don't see anything you did that should ruin a sensor or throw your codes otherwise. Check your electrical connections and let it prime a few more times.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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WAIT!!!

DO NOT!!! Under any circumstances crack an injector line on a HP Common rail diesel, the pressures at those lines are can be in excess of 26,000 PSI. The CR system is self priming.

To prime, turn the key to on, listen for the pump to run. Once the pump stops running, bump the motor, but do not start. This will cycle the pump again.

If you are having trouble starting after this, you may have another problem.

DO NOT use either. If you want to use a fluid to assist in starting, use WD-40. Either will ignite on contact with grid heaters, and is bad for our pistons, cylinder walls, and injectors.

Those codes should not result in a no start.

So far, you have done everything correctly. Good job on that. I doubt it, but running gas can damage your injectors. If you can get it to start with WD 40, but not by just cranking, then you could have an injector issue.

What mods do you have on the truck?

Keep us posted.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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Thanks for all the coaching tips guys. My truck is stock, NO aftermarket stuff on it. I will try and prime it they way you suggested. I am hesitant to put ether in it yet though. I checked and rechecked all the fuses and eletrical connections. Could diesel spraying out onto the uplugged connections create an issue for me after they were plugge dback in? or is that too paranoid. I am also concerned that the injectors picked up debris during the the time the gas was running thru or when I was cracking lines ensuring that diesel was getting all the way to the injectors.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by madhat
WAIT!!!

DO NOT!!! Under any circumstances crack an injector line on a HP Common rail diesel, the pressures at those lines are can be in excess of 26,000 PSI. The CR system is self priming.

To prime, turn the key to on, listen for the pump to run. Once the pump stops running, bump the motor, but do not start. This will cycle the pump again.

If you are having trouble starting after this, you may have another problem.

DO NOT use either. If you want to use a fluid to assist in starting, use WD-40. Either will ignite on contact with grid heaters, and is bad for our pistons, cylinder walls, and injectors.

Those codes should not result in a no start.

So far, you have done everything correctly. Good job on that. I doubt it, but running gas can damage your injectors. If you can get it to start with WD 40, but not by just cranking, then you could have an injector issue.

What mods do you have on the truck?

Keep us posted.
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Old Mar 24, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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Yes, if diesel got on some of the connectors it can cause your codes. The sensors run on very low voltage (5v) and measure very slight differences in resistance. If you have some connectors that got wet with diesel, take them apart and spray them with electrical connector cleaner, then dry them good with some low pressure air. I also believe you have not got clean diesel to the injectors yet. Clean up the connectors, prime the system, use a crank for 5-10 seconds and then off for 5 minutes cycle to try and start it.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:40 AM
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I gave up before shootin ether into it. i will let the certified insured mechanic do that. thanks again for all your help guys. this was a self-correcting mistake that I wont make again!
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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X3 and 4 and 5 on the

WAIT!!!

DO NOT!!! Under any circumstances crack an injector line on a HP Common rail diesel, the pressures at those lines are can be in excess of 26,000 PSI.

That is some big pressure and you will get hurt very bad if you do this.
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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I did the same thing to my 03 and drove about the same distance. Took it to a small repair shop and drained the tank, changed fuel filter and I put 5gals of diesel and a qt. of 10w oil. Drove back to station and filled up and never had a problem. HTH

Jim
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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I came close to doing this a couple months ago. I pulled into a BP station right off the interstate and pulled up to the pump with the green handle. I had just put the nozzle in the truck and turned around to start the pump when i noticed a gas smell. i looked down and realized it was premium. I was so happy i caught it, but kinda ****** that the gas pump had green handles. Now I know just to pay better attention. Good luck with whatever you find out!
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