I think morpheus was saying that the dodge will do it and the others won't no matter what the rear gears are. It will make it easier the shorter the gears are but no matter how short you make them a ford still won't idle off the line with that kind of load.

A prime example of how well the trucks lug is the gearing normally installed. The fords will run a 4.10 with a 4.30 option, the dodge will run a 3.54 with a 4.10 option. That alone tells me that the dodge has more torque down low and DCX doesn't need to gear it up to make it pull.

 

STill, our trucks are better. I can beat every ford ive ever challenged. On the road or on the strip, mines always came out on top.

 

WOW, You must be a prostocker.

 

The 7.3 Ford produced max torque at or near the same rpm the 5.9 does 1600. The 6.0 and 6.4 produce max torque at 2000 rpm (because of Ford tuning) the same International versions of those engines produce max torque at or near ours too.

That said I have towed the same camper with a 7.3 manual trans, a 6.0 auto, and my current truck. My current truck by far tows the camper better then either of the other 2 vehicles. All three trucks had 3.73 gears and were 4x4. Now the 7.3 was only rated at 2xx hp and I forget the torque but it was lower then the 5.9. The 6.0 was rated very close in HP and torque to the 5.9 but did not pull like it through the auto trans.

Lastly the Cummins web site defines using full throttle below max torque rpm for more then 15 seconds as engine abuse (lugging).

Now you know.

 

unless they are unconscious then you can take their wallets and write all over their face.

 

Thank you. Someone got it.

 

The older 7.3L Fords 95/03 were/are really good pullers/luggers. dads 96 sure did good. my dodge is a little quicker but wholy its rated a full 120hp more and 150ft lbs.. compare the ford to a 12v cummins and i think it has more. compare the 99-03 ford to the 24V cummins and i think it had a bit more. lot more cubes... in there. gota compare apples to apples here guys.

 

I've had 2 Duramaxes and a Power Stroke, and this Dodge pulls better than anything I've ever owned. The first time a pulled a big stack of trailers back from OK I was grinning from ear to ear after the first grade I climbed.

Something about the inline 6 that can't be beat IMO. I'm not a stat guy, just going from real world pulling over many thousands of miles. Also, my Dodge is awesome from a standstill. Just let out the clutch at an idle and off it goes. My Ford would NEVER do that, and it had a 6-speed manual tranny too. Can't comment on the Duramaxes, they both had the Allison tranny.

 

I know of no v8 that will lug with any straight 6 A v8 relies on RPM to get there HP.

 

what were all the stock HPs? did you buy them in order? with each newer one having more HP than the last?

 

Did you ever wonder why Gale Banks who runs in the 7's with his Duramax never trashed the engine in favor of a inline diesel. And to the guy who used to be a Chrysler release engineer, If you believe rear ratios and tire sizes mean nothing. Maybe thats why your an ex-engineer.

 

Left by choice to a better position. Still so dense you don't get it? Think about it a while.

 

were all three trucks in the test equipped with the same rear gears in this test you speak of morpheus? also what year models were used and were all of the trucks manual or autos?

 

Manuals. Dodges... all ratios. Competition, their more desireable ratio. Usually only one version of a competitive make. Last I worked on this was over 6 years ago, so as to what specific ratio the Ford/chevy had, I don't recall.

 

Even a 12V Cummins would run away and hide from th 95 7.3's. Put a load on them and the Ford couldn't even keep the tail lights in view.

Beating a dead horse here. All the diesels had comparable ratios in rear diffs and transmissions. If they didn't it was the manufacturers fault for not being overly intelligent. In the end it doesn't matter, the V8's have never been able to hold their own in a lug off the line get the load rolling brute power at low rpm's scenario, apples to apples comparison of course.

The amazing thing is there are people that will question or even argue this moot point.