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Do Ford Diesels LUG better than our 5.9s?

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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by no_6_oh_no
Even a 12V Cummins would run away and hide from th 95 7.3's. Put a load on them and the Ford couldn't even keep the tail lights in view.



Beating a dead horse here. All the diesels had comparable ratios in rear diffs and transmissions. If they didn't it was the manufacturers fault for not being overly intelligent. In the end it doesn't matter, the V8's have never been able to hold their own in a lug off the line get the load rolling brute power at low rpm's scenario, apples to apples comparison of course.

The amazing thing is there are people that will question or even argue this moot point.

LOLOL!!!!!
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 05 Ram 3500 SRW
what were all the stock HPs? did you buy them in order? with each newer one having more HP than the last?
2003 Duramax, 2004 Duramax, and 2005 Dodge. The '04 Duramax had an intake and Hypertech race tuning. The Dodge is bone stock. The PS was a little older (7.3 engine).

I wouldn't own a 6.0 Power Stroke. The 6.0 PS model was only missing the "O" between the P and the S.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by no_6_oh_no
Even a 12V Cummins would run away and hide from th 95 7.3's. Put a load on them and the Ford couldn't even keep the tail lights in view.



Beating a dead horse here. All the diesels had comparable ratios in rear diffs and transmissions. If they didn't it was the manufacturers fault for not being overly intelligent. In the end it doesn't matter, the V8's have never been able to hold their own in a lug off the line get the load rolling brute power at low rpm's scenario, apples to apples comparison of course.

The amazing thing is there are people that will question or even argue this moot point.
My friend i think you may want to get out and use other brands a little more. A v-8 with proper gearing can do more than you think.I had a
6.5 w/4.10 and a 5speed that would lug a 9k load off the line no problem that is with only a straight pipe.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by no_6_oh_no
Even a 12V Cummins would run away and hide from th 95 7.3's. Put a load on them and the Ford couldn't even keep the tail lights in view.
Ya you should drive a good 7.3 sometime. dads has really been a good one. it has 20 more ft/lbs than the 12 valve. not sure about HP our fords sticker says 215, and the dodge with standard was 215, but only 185 with auto? dads frind bought a 96 dodge 1 ton w/ 4;10 about the same time(late 90s) were never able to hook on the same trailers but i think it pulled about the same as dads truck, maybe a little better lugging but its apples to oranges...(auto/higher geared ford-, 410 dodge with std) i know dads ford would blow away from it on the hiway empty. and it got 1/3rd better millage. also dads motor will last as long as any cummins, still going stronag @ 260miles.
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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LeonT

Also, my Dodge is awesome from a standstill. Just let out the clutch at an idle and off it goes. My Ford would NEVER do that, and it had a 6-speed manual tranny too. Can't comment on the Duramaxes, they both had the Allison tranny.
Thats because of the zero throttle launch feature on the Cummins. The engine is getting fuel at launch whether its from your right foot or the programming on the Cummins.

If the Powerstroke had the same feature,it would leave at an idle with no throttle also.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 05:39 AM
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I remember test driving a ford 7.3 with the 6 speed stick, I stalled it twice before I made it off the dealer lot. I owned a 2001 Dodge Cummins 5 speed at the time. I don't think I ever stalled the dodge in the 70,000 miles I owned it.

After driving the Ford, it felt so good to get back in my Dodge.
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