Not one sized for the factory cannister or so I 've read.

 

The 03-04 have a TSB for the replacement to be in tank. I made it 20 miles to the shop with the origianl shot.

Cya

 

The '05-up in-tank lift pump will handle 2 microns - the Carter pump on the fuel manager head won't

 

Any idea on how to get a 03/04 to throw a liftpump code?

 

Depends on whether the DTC is for excessive current, or open circuit, or low pressure, or all the above - pinch off the inlet for low pressure and low current

 

Thanks for the info.

 

To get the Low current code just move the connector to one side. Or unplug it while running should do the trick.

 

gmctd,
I read what you posted and it is not very clear about the 3 Micron filtration.
Is this 3 Micron nominal or at absolute. If it is nominal then the Baldwin PF7977 passes spec. easily. If it is at absolute then it is not.


Baldwin PF7977
1-2 Micron Nominal
5 Micron to absolute at a 98.75% efficiency

 

From what I have read and seen at the Glacier Diesel Power site the in tank LP actually is regulated at the pump itself via a by-pass valve. The pump can actually run higher if this was disabled. I look for the ref. from his site and post it for your review.


Edited: Here is the link. http://www.glacierdieselpower.com/im...umpExposed.pdf

 

Wow, excellent link, thanks - that's just about what I determined, except that the valve and venturi chamber is in effect a small pump that ensures that that foamy mess never gets into the lift pump - as mentioned, that in-tank bypass dumping inside the cup can cause much foaming and aeration

The flapper valve is held closed by the weight of the fuel in the cup - that weight is dependent on the amount of foamy fuel in the cup vs the unfoamed fuel in the tank outside the cup - liquids seek their own level (Science 101) - the unfoamed fuel is denser than the aerated fuel, thus forcing the foam up and out so the foam never gets to the lp input

The weight inside the cup is also determined by the fuel level in the tank - as fuel level drops below the upper edges of the cup, it will still slosh over into the cup as the vehicle is moving - as the slosh-over lessens and the fuel level drops, the flapper remains open to equalize the level in the cup.

I thought it to be such a good system that I installed it in #2 sons Jeep - has the CP3 but no auxilliary fuel transfer pump - it's a draw-thru-filter-from-tank setup, just like the DMax CP3 systems - the Jeeps have a lot of problems with air in the filter manager head, causing long start, hesitation, bucking, missing, even burning open the fuel filter heater - they use the identical fuel sender module but without the electric pump - the Dodge LP module was instant cure, pulled from a new '06 3500 in a local boneyard.

Pressure flashes to close to 30psi at key On, then settles in at 9psi, steady - remember, here: commercial mechanical pressure guages are accurate only to ~15% of full scale, some to ~20%, which will explain the variances in pressure results, truck to truck = it's not the pumps, it's the guages.

Again, thanks for the link - that investigation would not fit within the scope of 'non-destructive' testing, so, having only the one example, I chose the non-destructive 'test to use' method

 

I still have not found\located that Bosch recommendation for 2-3 micron - read it somewhere, just cannot find it

 

 

Part Number: 3405
Principal Application: Various Cummins, Hitachi, Kawasaki - w/Drain (12 Micron)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Fuel/Water Separator Filter
Service: Fuel
Media: Paper
Height: 7.219
Outer Diameter Top: 3.698
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 1-14
Burst Pressure-PSI: 320
Max Flow Rate: 12 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 12

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.729 2.415 0.255
5625 1.187 0.915 0.160


I run this filter along with the same filter size as a fuel filter non water seperator. over filtered fuel is always better then less as i see it.
hope this helps. ill post pics of my set up as asap. errr as soon as someone tells me how to post pics. help please!

 

You'll need to post your pics on MyImagestation or Photobucket or some such free website

Copy the url for each pic, then in the REPLY screen type [img], paste the url, type [/img] at the end of the pasted url, click send, and you got it

 

fuel filters set up pics are loaded onto my personal photos. if you want to see my set up. i couldnt figure out how to post them. go look at my profile page. sorry.