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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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Crazy Hair brained dually conversion. Am I going to die or just be seriously injured

I got a crazy idea… I have been thinking about converting my truck to a dually for looks only so I’m not worried about the weight rating or other legal problems.

I found a dually axle on craigslist for $150 a while back and I could kick my self in the rear for not buying it! Now all I can find is $1000-$1500

I know I need one set of spacers for the front off of a dually truck. Could I use another set of the front spacers for the rear? Would the fit over the rear hubs?

If not. I could probably order a set of 4” spacers. I have seen 3” so I bet they could make 4”. I think the stock front hub adapters are 3.75” so the 4” would give me a little extra clearance for larger tires.

Then I would need a set of 1.5” – 2” to go between the duals. Is this to much stacking of spacers going to be a bad idea?

22.5 big rig wheels might be in future plans

Also anyone know where to find a set of stock 3rd gen dually wheels with simulators for pretty cheap? I don’t really need tires because I plan on staying with 35’s.

Thanks for any help/info.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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Don't know about the other stuff, but here's a 2003 dually rear end in San Diego - cheap.

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/pts/421999852.html
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bsj04

I know I need one set of spacers for the front off of a dually truck. Could I use another set of the front spacers for the rear? Would the fit over the rear hubs?

If not. I could probably order a set of 4” spacers. I have seen 3” so I bet they could make 4”. I think the stock front hub adapters are 3.75” so the 4” would give me a little extra clearance for larger tires.

Then I would need a set of 1.5” – 2” to go between the duals. Is this to much stacking of spacers going to be a bad idea?

22.5 big rig wheels might be in future plans

Also anyone know where to find a set of stock 3rd gen dually wheels with simulators for pretty cheap? I don’t really need tires because I plan on staying with 35’s.

Thanks for any help/info.

The DRW rear end is wider, period, over a SRW. You need a DRW rear end and the hubs.

Spacers to fit bigger tires....then you will need longer lugs if you go 2".

Try the classified here on DTR for the rims. Ebay. Craigslist. If I ever finish my project, I would have some wheels for you.


Ifyou plan on staying with 35's, why the need for 2" spacer? Plan on a wide tire?
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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The DRW rear end is wider, period, over a SRW. You need a DRW rear end and the hubs.

Spacers to fit bigger tires....then you will need longer lugs if you go 2".

Try the classified here on DTR for the rims. Ebay. Craigslist. If I ever finish my project, I would have some wheels for you.


Ifyou plan on staying with 35's, why the need for 2" spacer? Plan on a wide tire?
A guy on this site posted pics of a converted SRW megacab that he made into a long bed and converted to a dually.
He went with adapters from Arrowcraft....

You dont need a dually rear end.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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J.C. Whitney sells a kit for the 3/4 ton to put duals on it
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SSminnow
The DRW rear end is wider, period, over a SRW. You need a DRW rear end and the hubs.

Spacers to fit bigger tires....then you will need longer lugs if you go 2".

Try the classified here on DTR for the rims. Ebay. Craigslist. If I ever finish my project, I would have some wheels for you.


Ifyou plan on staying with 35's, why the need for 2" spacer? Plan on a wide tire?
Thats only true with 2nd gens, 3rd gens are all the same, only difference on DRWs is adapters/spacers/wheels/(fenders)
The axles are the same.



Scott, you can find the spacers/wheels you need pretty cheap, just check out craigslist, ebay, etc, maybe even hit up a junkyard or two(Try the truck junkyards off Jefferson in GP)
The only thing youd have to track down and get painted would be the fenders, but id go with some aftermarket fenders(since youll need them anyway with the 35s/2" spacer) Otherwise theyll just stick out and sling rocks down stock dually fenders...
(Try http://duallyfendersusa.com/, I believe the pair is $650, and 2" wider than stock)
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Stacked97
Thats only true with 2nd gens, 3rd gens are all the same, only difference on DRWs is adapters/spacers/wheels/(fenders)
The axles are the same.
Dually rear end is axle all together different on the 3rd gen 3500 vs. SRW 3rd gen but it does share the same 11.5" ring gear and pinion.
The housing (hog head) on the 3500 DRW rear end is also wider... as well as being setup at the ends to run a dually with longer studs etc.

Adapters from the factory are only on the front for the adaption of 3500 wheels. The reason for this is so they only have to provide you with a spare tire that fits all parts of the truck. If they did not use an adapter up front you would have to have 2 different spares.

The Arrowcraft dually kit for the rear is an all together different spacer than the one run up front so please dont confuse the two.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PourinDiesel
Dually rear end is axle all together different on the 3rd gen 3500 vs. SRW 3rd gen but it does share the same 11.5" ring gear and pinion.

I concur. The SRW and DRW assemblies are different.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PourinDiesel
Dually rear end is axle all together different on the 3rd gen 3500 vs. SRW 3rd gen but it does share the same 11.5" ring gear and pinion.
The housing (hog head) on the 3500 DRW rear end is also wider... as well as being setup at the ends to run a dually with longer studs etc.

Adapters from the factory are only on the front for the adaption of 3500 wheels. The reason for this is so they only have to provide you with a spare tire that fits all parts of the truck. If they did not use an adapter up front you would have to have 2 different spares.

The Arrowcraft dually kit for the rear is an all together different spacer than the one run up front so please dont confuse the two.
Hmm, I always heard of people doing the conversion to just swap wheels/adapters/fenders, didnt know they swapped rear ends
I always thought they were the same width, and all you needed to space out the front was the factory adapters, out back were just a spacer and the same wheels all around.
How much wider is the DRW axle than the SRW axle?
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PourinDiesel
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You dont need a dually rear end.

No, you don't HAVE to, but would look funny. The SRW IS narrower than a DRW.


I re read your post, and I must have missed it where you said they are different, but you could run it with a spacer. Now I see what you were saying.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Stacked97
Thats only true with 2nd gens, 3rd gens are all the same, only difference on DRWs is adapters/spacers/wheels/(fenders)
The axles are the same.

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No they are not, DRW and SRW are different. DRW is wider.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ptgarcia
I concur. The SRW and DRW assemblies are different.


Yep, thanks Pauly.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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No, you don't HAVE to, but would look funny. The SRW IS narrower than a DRW.
You dont need a dually rear end for the dually conversion hence the conversion part.
The conversion adapters make your SRW rearend the proper width and allow you to run dually wheels in the correct position.

Do I have to explain everything to you!!!
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PourinDiesel
You dont need a dually rear end for the dually conversion hence the conversion part.
The conversion adapters make your SRW rearend the proper width and allow you to run dually wheels in the correct position.

Do I have to explain everything to you!!!

I thought you were making an argument that you could run a SRW rear end in a DRW, by just swapping it in. I missed the adapter part the first time, and went back and corrected it.

I will tell you this, you need to off load your attitude You seem to take pride in being controversial with me for some reason. Get off of it.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SSminnow
I thought you were making an argument that you could run a SRW rear end in a DRW, by just swapping it in. I missed the adapter part the first time, and went back and corrected it.

I will tell you this, you need to off load your attitude You seem to take pride in being controversial with me for some reason. Get off of it.
Controversial? I just call it like it is. If I see misinformation I'll correct it.

I am sorry but sometimes you just dont know what you are talking about.

Spend some time learning then run your mouth.

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