I just think the decreased dependency on foreign oil is worth it...

I think if we stop subsidizing the American farmers and tell them to produce as much as possible... what we don't sell to the markets for food can then be processed for fuel... the cost of food would stay the same because they would be self subsidizing by the remainder being used to make fuel...

Then our dependency on foreign oil would go down, the money from subsidies would be put back into the government, Taxes would not need to go up, and the American farmer would still be able to make money...

This could also carry over south of the Border... Mexico has tons of land that could be used to produce food grade or fuel grade product and it would rejuvenate their economy and reduce the need for them to cross our border...

With the 40billion + in profits by the major oil companies they can build new refineries specifically for Bio-fuels that would increase production and in turn decrease the cost of fuel....

Boy... I feel like an Optimistic Retard!!!! They'll never do it!!!

 

sounds like a great plan...when I talk to mccain, obama, and hillary tomorrow I'll let them in on it...and I may even give you credit !!

 

it's not just the additional emmisions, but stanford's study found that due to the reaction of ethanol emmisions and ozone in the air, the state of california alone will see an estimated 100 additional deaths and 100,000 additional emergency room visits annually. the study states that these will be mostly from people with pre-existing respiratory conditions, the very young and the elderly.

 

so...on this note i have a question. would a person running say a F.A.S.S. system have far better luck when running b10, b20, b99, b100? kinda getting curious towards summer since i found a station in the town i work in that sells b5 and b99 atleast from what i have found out so far.

 

What biofuels did they test?

 

That's a pretty uninformed blanket statement. I just returned from a trip down to GA (from PA) and stopped at a Spinx between Spartanburg & Greenville, SC. They've been selling B20 for 2-3 years. For the last 2 years, their price for B20 has been EXACTLY the same as their reg. diesel (D2).

I know this because I used to live <2 miles from the station.

I run anywhere from B5 to B20 in both of my diesels (2005 Cummins & 2006.5 VW Jetta TDI) with no problems.

 

Well if Cummins thinks a better fuel filter is needed for B-20 then yes I would think it would help having a better 2 micron fuel filter on your truck to strip out the water. My understanding is that Cummins is worried about the amount of water in Bio and what it can do to the injectors. Also a lot of Bio being made does not even meet diesel fuel standards and I've been told their is no mandatory Bio standard that all Bio diesel has to meet before its sold.

 

ATSM, CARB, the EPA, DOE and USDOT all have biodiesel standards...when you buy biodiesel you should purchase it from a reputable company, just my thoughts.

 

BQ-9000 Quailit Managment Program

The National Biodiesel Accreditation Program is a cooperative and voluntary program for the accreditation of producers and marketers of biodiesel fuel called BQ-9000. The program is a unique combination of the ASTM standard for biodiesel, ASTM D 6751, and a quality systems program that includes storage, sampling, testing, blending, shipping, distribution, and fuel management practices.
BQ-9000 is open to any biodiesel manufacturer, marketer or distributor of biodiesel and biodiesel blends in the United States and Canada.

http://www.bq-9000.org/registration/

BQ-9000 helps companies improve their fuel testing and greatly reduce any chance of producing or distributing inadequate fuel. To receive accreditation, companies must pass a rigorous review and inspection of their quality control processes by an independent auditor. This ensures that quality control is fully implemented.

 

Thanks that sounds great!!!

But what if Huckabee wins???

 

i believe it was e-85 ethanol. i think they choose this fuel to test because california is swapping out many of their state vehicles that run on gas, to ethanol. a funny side note to this is that after the state started taking delivery of these new vehicles, they realized most of them were going to areas where there were no ethanol pumps at the state yards.

 

Oh silly California. But E85 is a totally different animal then biodiesel. E85 is a joke, crappy BTUs per gallon...just my thought. Biodiesel drops air toxins by as much as 80% with b100.

 

a 2 micron fuel filter wouldn't better help strip out the water...a 2 micron filter is for very fine particles and would be overwhelmed...from my understanding instead you would want a better water/fuel seperator.

 

it's very possible that the second study regarding higher greenhouse gases with bio-fuels, was done with ethanol as well- they did not specify which bio-fuels were used in the study.

 

I bought the book and took the class. I would advise considering buying a book and researching if there is a class on making biodiesel in your area. Educating yourself if you want to make biodiesel through as many different sources as possible is a good idea since there are a lot of different opinions out there. The book does have a parts list and plans for building an appleseed processor. The washtank and drytank are not described in detail, but they are pretty straightforward and folks here could help you build those. Good luck if you decide to do it! I have fun with it but would have been too scared to try it without research and education.