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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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Another in tank pump dies...

2005 truck here:
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...d.php?t=148461

I am beyond wanting to argue or debate anything about lift pumps. Just making people aware.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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You know the saying, "You can lead a horse to water..."

Amazing how many people only mention FASS... it's almost like a freakin' monopoly...
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...d.php?t=148528
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Superduty
2005 truck here:
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...d.php?t=148461

I am beyond wanting to argue or debate anything about lift pumps. Just making people aware.
I believe you have made people aware of your feelings towards the stock lift pumps. Almost like an obsession.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rammtuff
I believe you have made people aware of your feelings towards the stock lift pumps. Almost like an obsession.
I agree with this comment.If you don,t agree with superduty thoughts on his pump,he slams everyones elses comments (AKA) Fass system as he has done on other dodge web-sites.Go figure,my support of superduty and his thoughts are finished. coobie
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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I agree with this comment.If you don,t agree with superduty thoughts on his pump,he slams everyones elses comments (AKA) Fass system as he has done on other dodge web-sites.Go figure,my support of superduty and his thoughts are finished. coobie
Why? Because you have a FASS and he has a cheaper and or better soloution. I think we all need to be open to new ideas here and he has some good ideas all be it he does push hard. I don't believe he does it to push his own agenda but to me it shows frustration on his part, that what he believes is a simple and cost effective soloution to the lift pump issues is being overlooked. Now I'll be
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by trik396
You know the saying, "You can lead a horse to water..."

Amazing how many people only mention FASS... it's almost like a freakin' monopoly...
There are other options also,airdog and the Rasp systems.coobie
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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Why? Because you have a FASS and he has a cheaper and or better soloution. I think we all need to be open to new ideas here and he has some good ideas all be it he does push hard. I don't believe he does it to push his own agenda but to me it shows frustration on his part, that what he believes is a simple and cost effective soloution to the lift pump issues is being overlooked. Now I'll be
No not because I have the fass system.I believe everyone is entitled to there thoughts.Before you blow to hard,go back and read some of my posts reguarding my thoughts on this subject.coobie
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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No not because I have the fass system.I believe everyone is entitled to there thoughts.Before you blow to hard,go back and read some of my posts reguarding my thoughts on this subject.coobie
Amen brother.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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This one turned out not to be a lift pump , just clogged fuel filter . I think our filtration system is another thing that should be adressed more on this trucks . I like a dual filter system but I can not see paying what F.A.S.S. wants for thiers . Our system is a pain in the back side to change on the road and I would prefer a spin on system . When we pull out the old filter dirt drops inside and even with draining I don't feel all that sure I got all the dirt out .
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Check out the Cat filter I installed in the "Nice 2 micron Cat filter" thread in general diesel. Cost is about $50 if you make the holding plate yourself. Took me about 2 hours.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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I like that setup. Did you do completely away with the stock filter it has been a few days and a couple of hard nights since I last looked at it?
Thanks, Nick
p.s. these arguments about fuel systems between you guys have gotten a little outta hand. You all make valid points in your favor, but lets just try to keep things helpful instead of rude. Thanks and sorry to get involved
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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The reason I "blow hard" on this stuff is because it is the only way to make people aware and stop the BS.

The whole premise of my statements on fuel pumps is to run a (altogether now) high pressure, fuel cooled tough fuel injection type lift pump. And I've stated over and over why that is technically a better solution than a low pressure, high flow, air cooled vane type carburetor pump.

And EVERY time I make that statement, along comes another guy with a carburetor type pump that says it is just as good. It happens time and time again. And it just isn't so. I've explained pump power, motor current capability explained cooling, pressure capabilities, etc. I've "blown" long and hard about all this stuff. And yet people will still state that the carburetor pumps are just as good.

A guy posted just this moring in the "What is so great about FASS" about how a NAPA pump (for which he probably doesn't have a curve) wouldn't feed his Duramax and yet a Holley did. Translation: Holley pumps are better than EFI pumps. This kind of reasoning just won't die unless someone fights it.

Yesterday in the "Implementing a Walbro" thread a guy posts that he gets 75K per Carter pump. Like they are a good pump and should be used. OK. Now how many miles would you get from a Walbro or a Bosch ? What other vehicle's lift pump is celebrated when it gets 75,000 miles ?

I didn't expect lift pump discussions to get this way. It is like the carburetor lift pump guys have a religious devotion to those pumps. And if they make it 75,000 miles, Hallelujah ! That is a good lift pump. Praise the Lord (and that pump.)

Go do a poll over on a Ford site and see how many lift pumps they are replacing at 75,000 miles. And their lift pumps run at 60 PSI, not 6 PSI.

And yet sure as the sun rises, someone will come on here and tell me how great their 7 PSI Holley is. Uuuggggghhhh.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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"I like that setup. Did you do completely away with the stock filter"

No. I retained the stock filter. It is just to the right of the Cat filter in one of the pictures. The Walbro has tons of pressure to push the fuel through both. I don't like running a 2 micron filter without some pre filtering. I've now got dual filtering. The 10 micron stock filter with fuel heater and water drain and then the 2 micron Cat filter.

If you have any more questions about the filter setup, put them in the "Nice 2 micron Cat filter" post in General Diesel.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by John Halter
This one turned out not to be a lift pump , just clogged fuel filter . I think our filtration system is another thing that should be adressed more on this trucks . I like a dual filter system but I can not see paying what F.A.S.S. wants for thiers . Our system is a pain in the back side to change on the road and I would prefer a spin on system . When we pull out the old filter dirt drops inside and even with draining I don't feel all that sure I got all the dirt out .
Sure something to keep in mind(ie. the "debris" that clogged his filter). The poor guy has had such bad luck with the Dodge lift pumps that he bought the spare(FASS) one anyway LOL!
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