Air Filter Time
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I have seen many posts about different types of Air Filters and kits you can put on these trucks.
Why do so many people not like the K&N style over paper filters? Would a oil less style like the K&N be better for more air?
Thoughts....
Smitty
Why do so many people not like the K&N style over paper filters? Would a oil less style like the K&N be better for more air?
Thoughts....
Smitty
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K&N flow more & are less restrictive but do not filter out the fine particles as well as paper.
The fine particles have been known to dust the engine ( allow enought silica into to the turbo & intake to destroy an engine. )
The fine particles have been known to dust the engine ( allow enought silica into to the turbo & intake to destroy an engine. )
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i have a 2005 model, old man had a k&N air filter in the truck when i got it. 41K miles.
I took it out and bought a new dealership filter, 4" I think its a much better filter, just concerned about (more air flow, more dirt flow)
did lose about 1 mpg so you can tell i am not getting as much air flow.
just wanted to protect the big guy, he likes clean fuel and clean air.
have a good day,
I took it out and bought a new dealership filter, 4" I think its a much better filter, just concerned about (more air flow, more dirt flow)
did lose about 1 mpg so you can tell i am not getting as much air flow.
just wanted to protect the big guy, he likes clean fuel and clean air.
have a good day,
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I tell you what, I still have the stock air box with a 4" hole in the bottom with some PVC routing the air from the front, and I recently switched from my Airaid back to the stock Dodge paper filter... they have improved them a good bit, and I have not had any problems with them since I put it in.
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Oiled filters are too easy to improperly service and do turbo/engine damage, even when properly serviced they can do damage.
The OEM 4" filter flows a TON of air, filters as good, or better, than anything else and is well priced with a good service life.
In the sub 450 rwhp range there isn't anything better than the stock setup, and with a few mods it can be a real performer.
Air Filter: Run the OEM 4” Pleat filter, PN 53034249AA
Airaid MIT: Better throttle response, quicker turbo spool, better sound
GDP Intake Horn: Better throttle response, quicker turbo spool, lower intake air temps.
Home Depot CAI: Cooler intake air, better flow at high boost
If you have an 04.5-07 be sure to leave the directional vanes in the lower 90* intake elbow, they don’t effect flow and Holset claims they help the turbo operate up to 30% more efficient. If you have an 03-04 try to find an 04.5-07 lower intake elbow.
All of these mods cost less than a standard CAI, and will out perform them. My IAT
s are 6-12* over ambient under normal cruise with those mods, where stock they were 10-20*.
The OEM 4" filter flows a TON of air, filters as good, or better, than anything else and is well priced with a good service life.
In the sub 450 rwhp range there isn't anything better than the stock setup, and with a few mods it can be a real performer.
Air Filter: Run the OEM 4” Pleat filter, PN 53034249AA
Airaid MIT: Better throttle response, quicker turbo spool, better sound
GDP Intake Horn: Better throttle response, quicker turbo spool, lower intake air temps.
Home Depot CAI: Cooler intake air, better flow at high boost
If you have an 04.5-07 be sure to leave the directional vanes in the lower 90* intake elbow, they don’t effect flow and Holset claims they help the turbo operate up to 30% more efficient. If you have an 03-04 try to find an 04.5-07 lower intake elbow.
All of these mods cost less than a standard CAI, and will out perform them. My IAT
s are 6-12* over ambient under normal cruise with those mods, where stock they were 10-20*.
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Based on the underhood temps I saw at the area where that filter would pull air from it would do nothing for performance and most likely increase EGT's, just make the turbo louder.. I guess it depends on what you want.
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Running with no filter at all on a dyno shows no power increase, so I don't think airflow is the issue unless you are building huge horsepower.
I run a stock filter and my silicon levels are below 2.
I run a stock filter and my silicon levels are below 2.
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That's my same goal, I tend to over research things and all of my mods are about efficiency and reliability.
The added power is a benefit.. a VERY nice one!
The added power is a benefit.. a VERY nice one!
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I think its been proven many times that unless you are heavily modified, there is no power/mpg gain with one of the popular aftermarket filters.
I run the plain old Fleetguard filter with the foam pre-filter in the stock air box.
Only thing I see is that even after changing the filter, if I have to get in it pretty hard, the filter minder pulls deep into the yellow. I jsut choose not to look at the filter minder anymore!!..
I run the plain old Fleetguard filter with the foam pre-filter in the stock air box.
Only thing I see is that even after changing the filter, if I have to get in it pretty hard, the filter minder pulls deep into the yellow. I jsut choose not to look at the filter minder anymore!!..
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I think its been proven many times that unless you are heavily modified, there is no power/mpg gain with one of the popular aftermarket filters.
I run the plain old Fleetguard filter with the foam pre-filter in the stock air box.
Only thing I see is that even after changing the filter, if I have to get in it pretty hard, the filter minder pulls deep into the yellow. I jsut choose not to look at the filter minder anymore!!..
I run the plain old Fleetguard filter with the foam pre-filter in the stock air box.
Only thing I see is that even after changing the filter, if I have to get in it pretty hard, the filter minder pulls deep into the yellow. I jsut choose not to look at the filter minder anymore!!..
Try the new Mopar 4", its a much better flowing and filtering filter than the 2" Fleetguard.