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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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Dually tire question......

Anybody here run larger front tires than rears? I got stuck again yesterday and I've had enough of these cheese cutters. I was sitting on some slush and all 6 wheels were spinning but the truck wouldn't budge. I had to get a Jeep Grand Cherokee to pull me out. That really hurt!!!<br> I'm going to get some aggressive tread tires and I have seen some duallies in the past with fatter front tires than rears. I'm just wondering if this may pose a problem other than the obvious one of not being able to rotate them properly. Also, who makes a good aggressive tread tire that's not too expensive? BJ's has BFG's but they are like $150.00 each or something like that....
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 07:20 AM
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Yes, that would cause a problem other than rotation on a 4x4. The different size or tread design would put an uneven strain on the front/rear diff's when in 4 wheel drive, since it essentially locks out the differential from front to rear. I have a traction problem with my '99 UNTIL I put some weight in it, then it gets all the pull and grip I could ask for. When running a 3500, you need some weight in it. If you are going to use 4 wheel drive, you MUST have same size and tread design on all drive tires, otherwise one differential puts reverse torque on the other differential.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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put about 2000# right over the rear axle, and you will be amazed at where that 3500 will go 8)
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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Weight on the rear is the key to traction....I just pulled a 44ft heavy loaded trailer thur DC after the last big snow....thur unplowed roads and parking lots and never lost traction....I would never have tryed it without that weight on the rear
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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Well, as long as the height is the same, the width of the tires should not put an uneven strain on the differentials. I'm not talking about putting taller tires on the front, just wider. I also know that putting some weight in the bed will help but I think some better tires will help also. Plus it will look better.. ;D
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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Seems to me that this &quot;uneven strain&quot; idea makes no sense. If you take a look, there are 4 tires on the rear, and two on the front. Seems like that would cause more uneven strain than having 4 tires on the back, and two wider tires on the front. Only problem is that you might have to go to aftermarket rims to get the fronts wide enough for wider tires
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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I don't think wider tires is the answer either. <br><br>My wife's &quot;rocket&quot; Z24 has 16&quot; low profile tires. I put 15&quot; on em' and they're much better. They &quot;cut&quot; through snow, much better than wider tires would &quot;float&quot; over snow drifts.<br><br>Then again, maybe it's my wife's heavy foot. She thinks speed limits are &quot;suggestions&quot; . She just bangs through snow drifts, and laughs.<br><br>Once again, good tread tires, weight in the back, and you'll be alright.<br><br>Bryan<br><br>
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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235x85R16 BFG All-Terrain is the best way to go. Look around you can find them for 120.00 each. Excellent traction and wear like iron. Run them on all my trucks.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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I do like the tread pattern on the BFGs but I don't like the price too much . At the same time, I don't want some POS tires which won't hold up. I'm hoping to find some decent tires at a cheap price. If it must be the BFGs, so be it. As far as the size of the fronts, I don't really want a super wide tire, just something as wide as I can safely put on the stock rims.... Thanks for all the input
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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Back in the old days, every seasoned off roader I knew swore by having big fat tires in back, and little skinny ones in front.<br>Same height of course.<br><br>Something about the fronts cutting through the mess, then the rears flattening it out gave the best traction.<br><br>If this is still true, a Dually should get better traction as is.<br><br>Now that I am older and wiser, it doesn't hold much water anymore. .<br><br><br>phox
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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Dodgezilla, if you're open to suggestions, I have run Kelly Safari A/T's on my rig for close to 70k miles and they've done pretty well. I don't get into snow or ice much (see location ) but they have always served well in mud and on the street. 235/85/16 for $99 a pop at the local Kelly dealer. Not incredibly wide but i got them all around for rotating purposes....tire place said 235 was the widest for the back...
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 06:39 AM
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Of course I'm open to suggestions.. I will check those Kelly tires out. There is a dealer about a mile away..<br>Thanks
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 10:30 AM
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I had a '90 CTD flatbed 6x6 for 11 years. Used Dayton radials w/a tread pattern very similar to the BFG Mud T/A. 235/85-16 Good mileage, traction, at a fair price. Good dealer support, also. Only thing that I'd do differently now is have them siped for better slick surface traction. I'd stick w/ same size all around, for obvious reasons.
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 02:13 PM
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You might want to check out these sites. Little bit pricey but Iam trying to find a different approach I'll let you know if I find anything. check out www.ricksontruck.com or<br>www.chromewheel.com. (click on &quot;run the big wheels&quot I currently am running 315/85/R16 on the stock wheels w/ 3&quot; spacers in the back. The only problem I have is the stock wheels are so narrow the center of the treads are wearing twice as fast. Good luck.<br>
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Buy a set of Michelin XPS Tractions, 235/85/16 E rated, you can get them for $180 each. They are commerical grade tires all steel and re-capable. They will give you around 60-80K miles and the tread is what you need to go where you want. They cost more, but they are worth it. If you compare a BFG AT/KO next to a Michelin XPS Traction there is no comparison. The XPS is heavy duty
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