When to change rear axle fluid?
When to change rear axle fluid?
Gentlemen,<br> I've head some guys say to never change (drain) the rear axle fluid, just make sure the level is OK. I hear other guys say to change the fluid once a year. I guess it depends on how much you tow. I pull my camper (6200lbs empty) about 10 times a year. Should I just follow the manual as far as changing the axle fluid? Where do I check the fluid at? Thanks. 8)
Re:When to change rear axle fluid?
[quote author=Jones0027 link=board=4;threadid=15186;start=0#142617 date=1054063224]<br>Gentlemen,<br> I've head some guys say to never change (drain) the rear axle fluid, just make sure the level is OK. I hear other guys say to change the fluid once a year. I guess it depends on how much you tow. I pull my camper (6200lbs empty) about 10 times a year. Should I just follow the manual as far as changing the axle fluid? Where do I check the fluid at? Thanks. 8)<br>[/quote]<br><br>Based on your use and the weight of what you are towing I would change it every 30K miles. Go with a good synthetic 75w90.
Re:When to change rear axle fluid?
If I remember right my dealer says 30K max if non-synthetic but they recommend 24K. 60K if synthetic.<br><br>I'm thinking of having them change my rear and front diff at 30K to synthetic.
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Re:When to change rear axle fluid?
TWO things to keep in mind about limited slip differentials - the clutches, if operating normally, WILL wear and add contaminents to the lube - it DOES need to be changed out depending on individual use - one size does NOT fit all!
<br><br>NEXT, IF you switch to a synthetic lube - a good idea - and the proper operation of the LS is important to you, CHECK to make sure the LS is still functional after switching to a new lube. You SHOULD be able to place one rear wheel on a loose surface, the other on a solid surface - not necessarily pavement, but a good hard packed dirt surface, and with decent accelleration, be able to spin BOTH rear wheels decently. If you can't, you may need to:<br><br>1. Forget about your LS ever working with a synthetic<br><br>2. Switch to another brand synthetic (could get expensive!)<br><br>3. Have the differential disassembled and clutch packs adjusted for use with synthetic lube (it IS possible!)<br><br>4. Go back to the stock lube, assuming IT was allowing proper LS operation.<br><br>My LS didn't work properly with straight synthetic, so I ended up using Valvoline 85/140 wt synthetic blend - so far, so good... ;D ;D
<br><br>NEXT, IF you switch to a synthetic lube - a good idea - and the proper operation of the LS is important to you, CHECK to make sure the LS is still functional after switching to a new lube. You SHOULD be able to place one rear wheel on a loose surface, the other on a solid surface - not necessarily pavement, but a good hard packed dirt surface, and with decent accelleration, be able to spin BOTH rear wheels decently. If you can't, you may need to:<br><br>1. Forget about your LS ever working with a synthetic<br><br>2. Switch to another brand synthetic (could get expensive!)<br><br>3. Have the differential disassembled and clutch packs adjusted for use with synthetic lube (it IS possible!)<br><br>4. Go back to the stock lube, assuming IT was allowing proper LS operation.<br><br>My LS didn't work properly with straight synthetic, so I ended up using Valvoline 85/140 wt synthetic blend - so far, so good... ;D ;D
Re:When to change rear axle fluid?
I plan on changing my LS at around 30K to Royal Purple 85W-140 (assuming it wont cause any troubles and I am still doing my research on the best oil to use). Most of my miles are highway and unloaded, though I do load the truck down good with a gooseneck several times a year. As for changing the fluid, I am still looking into that but I think I am just going to change it like I have others Diffs in the past--unbolt to the cover, drain the fluid, raise each side of truck for further draining, place the cover back on with a sealent, bolt, and fill in diff as required. I dont think I will need to add the friction modifier with the Royal Purple, but will if needed after doing Figure 8's. I hope this is all correct, though it will be a few more months untill I am close to 30K, I am only at 17K now.
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Gary --great comments. indeed, the LS issue is a good reason to have the dealer do the fluid change. then you can hold him responsible to maintain LS functionality. At 24K miles (my dealer's recommended drain interval for the rear) I think I'll have him change things out -- then I'll go do the test, or make sure they prove to me that the LS works. <br><br>two questions about the LS though: (1) what prevents the clutches from engaging during a sharp turn on pavement? (2) what is the warrenty period for the LS itself. yikes it might be 2 years / 24K. do you know?
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Re:When to change rear axle fluid?
I can't answer about the warranty period for the differential - the warranty periods seemed to change for a few years, I *think* mine WOULD have been 7 years/100,000 miles IF I hadn't installed the Comp...
<br><br>As for why the LS doesn't chatter and grab in turns, that's the purpose of the "limited" in limited slip, it's not a 100% lockup, and a reasonable degree of slippage is designed into it to avoid the grab and chatter. Still, *I* prefer some ocassional indication of LS function, such as evidence of the inner wheel spinning or trying to, in sharp corners on looser surfaces such as gravel or dirt - that's what it did when new, and still does after finally installing the Valviline lube after the full-synthetic fiasco...
<br><br>As for why the LS doesn't chatter and grab in turns, that's the purpose of the "limited" in limited slip, it's not a 100% lockup, and a reasonable degree of slippage is designed into it to avoid the grab and chatter. Still, *I* prefer some ocassional indication of LS function, such as evidence of the inner wheel spinning or trying to, in sharp corners on looser surfaces such as gravel or dirt - that's what it did when new, and still does after finally installing the Valviline lube after the full-synthetic fiasco...
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Re:When to change rear axle fluid?
[quote author=Doug link=board=4;threadid=15186;start=0#143216 date=1054164678]<br>Gary --great comments. indeed, the LS issue is a good reason to have the dealer do the fluid change. then you can hold him responsible to maintain LS functionality. At 24K miles (my dealer's recommended drain interval for the rear) I think I'll have him change things out -- then I'll go do the test, or make sure they prove to me that the LS works. <br><br>two questions about the LS though: (1) what prevents the clutches from engaging during a sharp turn on pavement? (2) what is the warrenty period for the LS itself. yikes it might be 2 years / 24K. do you know?<br>[/quote]<br><br>On my 02 the warranty on the drivetrain is 7/70. The dealer wants big $$$ for this work and they will just add the limited slip additive and tell you it works. This is one job that anyone can do themselves. If nothing else get a hand pump and pump out the old fluid and add Mobil 1 synthetic and drive it and if it binds when you do the figure 8's add an ounce of additive and try it again. Also if you don't tow or haul much or very limited weight. Once you switch to synthetic you will be set.
Re:When to change rear axle fluid?
[quote author=matthopp link=board=4;threadid=15186;start=0#142974 date=1054131176]<br>I plan on changing my LS at around 30K to Royal Purple 85W-140 (assuming it wont cause any troubles and I am still doing my research on the best oil to use). Most of my miles are highway and unloaded, though I do load the truck down good with a gooseneck several times a year. As for changing the fluid, I am still looking into that but I think I am just going to change it like I have others Diffs in the past--unbolt to the cover, drain the fluid, raise each side of truck for further draining, place the cover back on with a sealent, bolt, and fill in diff as required. I dont think I will need to add the friction modifier with the Royal Purple, but will if needed after doing Figure 8's. I hope this is all correct, though it will be a few more months untill I am close to 30K, I am only at 17K now. <br>[/quote]<br><br>No modifier needed with the RP.... I have the 85W-140 in both diffs... good stuff!
Re:When to change rear axle fluid?
two questions about the LS though: (1) what prevents the clutches from engaging during a sharp turn on pavement? (2) what is the warrenty period for the LS itself. yikes it might be 2 years / 24K. do you know?
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