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Old Jul 30, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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wnen my vp went out on my old truck, it blew up internally and scattered pieces into my injectors, taking them out also. it still got me home, but barely
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DIESELWRKS
do the 3 key cycle and pull your codes,
see if any visual other than normal leaks external.
look at the face of your turbo.
check your oil
check your coolant incase of crossing with oil.
get a 3/4 wrench and undo the heads of a injector
bump start the motor by turning your key and not starting it this will make your lift pump push fuel through the vp and hopefully to the injectors. (still that doesn't mean your VP is good or bad)
was the bang like a tire blowing or a metallic bang.
check your air path from turbo to intercooler. all the boots. and back to the head same thing. your inner fender wells if you look under neath they are prone to rub into the lower intercooler boots.
do the easy stuff first before you start the truck
just incase so if it was a hard part your not doing more damage.
sorry, didnt need to do any of these as the 1688 code told me all i need to know, computer failure in the vp44

now no one answered the what vp44? and what lift pump? see my sig for what i am running, i dont think the stanadyne has enough volume, it reads 10-12 idle and down to 6-7 load, i know more fuel ='s more cooling, so i think it is time for the full fuel replace and upgrade, did these 2000 trucks have the in tank pump too? forgot to look at that
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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now no one answered the what vp44? and what lift pump?
FWIW, I'm running AirDog with a 2 micron filter. Pressure is 15# at idle and never lower than 13#. MWFI says bad fuel is what took out my pump, not bad pump. It still comes down to $1,000 & 4 hrs labor (mine in this case). Easy job. Will never pay a shop to do it. Read the FSM, watch dieseldanmac videos on youtube if you want more info.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Junk Man
FWIW, I'm running AirDog with a 2 micron filter. Pressure is 15# at idle and never lower than 13#. MWFI says bad fuel is what took out my pump, not bad pump. It still comes down to $1,000 & 4 hrs labor (mine in this case). Easy job. Will never pay a shop to do it. Read the FSM, watch dieseldanmac videos on youtube if you want more info.
got a buddy who is a dodge tech and he's gonna show me whats up so i can know how to do this again one day
does that airdog mount where the stock filter and pump would have been? my pump is on the driver side frame and i want to move it off of there and get it somewhere cleaner and easier to get to etc...
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by b4wheeler
I just had a very similar situation this past weekend.....

Towing 6,000 lbs, I was in it hard, merging into traffic... Then I heard the same loud BANG!!!! and a lot of black smoke..

Pulled over and found a loose turbo hose..

Fixed it and it blew again....

Fixed it again and drove mildly the rest of the way.. Kept it under 20psi.

Looking for a permanent fix now so that I am not afraid to run it full on at 40psi.....
whats the benifits of running 40 PSI of boost, and how did you do it
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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No real benefit, that is just what my truck will pull under hard acceleration..
I guess with all my fueling, I am getting more boost than necessary. Generally keep it at a max of 35psi.
I guess I could dial the boost elbow in a little and bring the boost down, but it runs strong and pulls hard all the way into the 40psi range.....
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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but isent that what the waste gate is for? so you get strong fast spool upin the beginning, but steady boost torwards the end of your RPM range...
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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Not real sure what you are asking??

I run ->
110hp injectors(more fuel)
Quad Xzilliraider (normally set on 90hp)
Van Aaken (40hp al the time)
and the boost elbow turned all the way in.

That is how I am getting 40 psi.
Once it shifts out of first and I let out of it a little, the truck settles downto about 30-35psi....

This is not all the time. Just merging onto highway towing my trailer or having fun at the lights.

Normally I never see more than 30psi on an average day.
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MeanGrn
got a buddy who is a dodge tech and he's gonna show me whats up so i can know how to do this again one day
does that airdog mount where the stock filter and pump would have been? my pump is on the driver side frame and i want to move it off of there and get it somewhere cleaner and easier to get to etc...
I'd be interested to hear if it was the VP, or something more substantial. Update?
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by b4wheeler
Not real sure what you are asking??

I run ->
110hp injectors(more fuel)
Quad Xzilliraider (normally set on 90hp)
Van Aaken (40hp al the time)
and the boost elbow turned all the way in.

That is how I am getting 40 psi.
Once it shifts out of first and I let out of it a little, the truck settles downto about 30-35psi....

This is not all the time. Just merging onto highway towing my trailer or having fun at the lights.

Normally I never see more than 30psi on an average day.
my wastegate keeps my boost lower than 22 and norm on 20 PSI. i was just wondering if you had removed your wastegate...
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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The boost elbow changes the pressure the wastegate opens. You don't have any fuel mods, so no need to increase the boost.
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BigGreen
**** you guy are scaring me making me wonder if I should have bought my 01 24v. I don't even know what a VP44 is.
there not that bad . we got a few and 3 of them have new blue chip pumps and are well over 250,000 miles 1 has 150,000 still orig. VP44. there are lots of VP trucks that have died early and lots of them still going you never know when its your turn,when it happens get a good pump and move on.
one of the things I like about the VP44 is its quick and simple to R&R
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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to OP, I second checking intercooler boots, etc. I removed a clamp to the intercooler boot on lower driver side one time and forgot to tighten it back after I was done.......

got on the pedal hard a few days later and BAM!!! sounded like a horrible explosion and I was trying to find a soft spot bail in the bar-ditch. After realizing nothing was on fire and the truck was still running, and brakes worked, I pulled it over and checked things out.

the intercooler boot had popped off under lots of ?boost pressure? i suppose.

put the boot back on and tightened the clamp, no more problems, smooth sailing
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