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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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Run engine with no trans?

I'm putting a south bend clutch in, while i was at it i installed a new crank seal, would it be ok to run the engine witht just the flywheel and no clutch/trans? i want to set the high idle for a while to see if the seal leaks before i assemble everything just to be safe. would it throw the engine off balance or anything? should i support the back of the motor?
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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without very securely attaching that 930 or so # motor to the frame, I wouldnt do it. when she fires off, she'll torque over and when shutting down. i dont recommend it.

it will not affect balance of the motor, you just dont have 33% of the engine support in the truck.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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would there be anything that would get streached too tight or anything becuase of the engine moving around? Just hate to ruin a 900 dollar clutch in a hundred miles because of a defective seal.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Do not start your engine without the trans and all supports to hold it in place. These things rock around pretty good when shut down. I would be worried about the engine beating aginst one of the fenders or other parts in the engine bay.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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The engine is not going to beat around the fenders.
It may rock back and forth because of the mid-engine mounted engine mounts. I would set up jack stands at the front and rear of the engine and let it rip. As for clearences, the fan and shroud would be my biggest concern.

Anytime I replace a rear crank seal, I always run the engine and drop the flywheel back down to check the deal.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rsquared28
The engine is not going to beat around the fenders.
It may rock back and forth because of the mid-engine mounted engine mounts. I would set up jack stands at the front and rear of the engine and let it rip. As for clearences, the fan and shroud would be my biggest concern.

Anytime I replace a rear crank seal, I always run the engine and drop the flywheel back down to check the deal.
i have never heard of running an engine to check a new rear seal...i have re built hunderds of engines ,never had one leak while under warranty
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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i have never heard of running an engine to check a new rear seal...i have re built hunderds of engines ,never had one leak while under warranty
While good technicians rarely screw up crank seals, I have had to replace seals for a lot of young inexperienced techs. It has been standard operating procedure to run engines with no tranny in several shop I have worked at. Let the engine run for 15 - 20 minutes, grab a cup of coffee, whatever.
This is a lot easier than having to deal with an angry customer, or pulling the transmission back out later on.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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I have bought brand new bad parts. Just because it is new doesn't gurantee it is not defective.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rsquared28
While good technicians rarely screw up crank seals, I have had to replace seals for a lot of young inexperienced techs. It has been standard operating procedure to run engines with no tranny in several shop I have worked at. Let the engine run for 15 - 20 minutes, grab a cup of coffee, whatever.
This is a lot easier than having to deal with an angry customer, or pulling the transmission back out later on.
of course i realize things can change with time, i retired from automotive repair in 1986 but like i said, i never heard of it
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 01:56 AM
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It's not if i installed it right but being i purchased the seal at kragen makes me worry, it's a felpro seal, are those good seals? But if by some chance it's defective, then goes a weekend on pulling the tranny out, and 900 bucks because of an oil contaminated clutch disk. So nobody's ran there dodge with no trans?
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