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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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Disconnecting the ABS system

Is it possible to disconnect the ABS system, and just have the brakes lock up when you really stomp em? I've had more tight squeezes because of the daggone ABS than if she'd just locked the brakes up. At least then you're stopping, not buzzing and continuing your journey through the intersection with the opposing tractor trailer. I'd rather they just function like regular truck brakes.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Hate to say this....but you stop WAY better with the tire rolling than locked up. You have better control. (Just like you dont want tire spin when drag racing) Hence the ABS. You just have to use them correctly for them to work right. Stomp em to the floor and hold them and steer......OR drive slower and look ahead more!! hahaha.......

You can yank the fuse...but chances are that you will loose something else in the process. Not to mention that peskey ABS and Brake light always being on!!!!! OR disconnect the pump....but same results will happen...

All in all...i wouldnt mess with it.......
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Just wondering. I just hate it when it buzzes and won't let you press the pedal anymore. Oh well.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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ABS doesn't allow you to stop quicker or shorter distance, it allows you to control the vehicle, steer around whatever you were panick stopping to avoid,
except in icy conditions, then it might actually allow you to stop in less distance.

To answer your question, pulling the ABS fuse will disable it, but you'll have the ABS warning light shining in your face all the time.


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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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I have to respectfully disagree. Any Race school will teach you to hit the brakes with out locking the tires up will stop you faster. Why do you think that the Older Dodge Vipers (without ABS) cant stop as well as the 'Vette?(with ABS). The ABS is just the electronic way of regulating this. It keeps the tire from locking up thus increasing traction when tryng to brake. Most people dont know how to properly operate the ABS system, rendering less effective.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by phox_mulder
ABS doesn't allow you to stop quicker or shorter distance, it allows you to control the vehicle, steer around whatever you were panick stopping to avoid,
except in icy conditions, then it might actually allow you to stop in less distance.

To answer your question, pulling the ABS fuse will disable it, but you'll have the ABS warning light shining in your face all the time.


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Ditto that, does not stop faster. I go over a speed bump everyday on my way home and have to stop the abs will kick in if I hit the bump at a percise moment, If I just miss it, it will stop on a dime on the same surface. If the ABS kicks in I have to go another 5-10 feet.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Dan
I have to respectfully disagree. Any Race school will teach you to hit the brakes with out locking the tires up will stop you faster. Why do you think that the Older Dodge Vipers (without ABS) cant stop as well as the 'Vette?(with ABS). The ABS is just the electronic way of regulating this. It keeps the tire from locking up thus increasing traction when tryng to brake. Most people dont know how to properly operate the ABS system, rendering less effective.
I have to respectfully argue this. "Threshold braking" theoretically is indeed the most efficient way to stop a vehicle, not always, but quite often. The problem is, the ABS systems on our trucks were definitely not designed with threshold braking in mind. During a panic stop, if one wheel contacts a speck of gravel, these crude systems actually seem to shut down at least one channel of the brake system, and it will not reaquire it through the remainder of the stop. A knowledgeable driver can easily outbrake these systems using skill instead of relying on this system. I disabled my ABS shortly after buying my truck, after a couple of scary stops, and have not been happier. No, there's no fault with my system, that's just the way it was designed. If I desire to use my brakes, I will do so, without an inanimate object shutting them off.
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Old Mar 28, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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ABS simply gives you the ability to hit what you're aiming at.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 06:21 AM
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Yeah, about like Torquefan is saying. Daggone thing won't stop. When I want the truck to stop RIGHT NOW it's like it trys to fight back and keep rolling. I wish I could change that, it sucks.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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ABS is great for a small car, but for some reason when you put it on a huge truck it is worthless.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 06:59 AM
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I would be more worried about liability than anything else. You're disabling a "safety feature" of the truck, and I use that term loosely.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Right...i can see your point...but for the people out there that mash the pedel and LOCK up all 4, ABS will Stop fast in that situation! I would guess that 80-90% of people out there dont have an idea about threshold braking. ABS is a crude version that helps thoes people from locking up the brakes. I didnt say it was perfect! haha.....i can agree to that! Ive been in the mud when the thing kicked on.........
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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If you crunch the rear of someone's car and their attorney discovers the ABS had been disconnected, it won't matter if you would have traveled farther with it hooked up.
He'll convince a jury it would have stopped 20 feet shorter with it active.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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True. I'm a commercial vehicle too, DOT would taser me repeatedly if they found I'd unhooked it. Crap. Well, going to nappy then and getting the GM brake cylinders. Hope the 07's have better brakes, I'm hoping to be pulling with the baddest 3500 flatbed you can buy next year. Then the 2500 gets some fun upgrades for mud, running over deer at full speed, and outrunning fords.
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