I just bought a used 2001 2500 Dodge diesel with the Automatic Transmission. When I start it up in the morning or if it has'nt run in awhile, it takes about 2 minutes to get any power. Until then, it seems lethargic and won't go over about 30 mph. After it "warms up" its fine. Turbo works good and it shifts fine etc. This is my first Dodge Diesel so not really sure if this is normal or what. Might this be a fuel problem or a torque converter problem? Where should I start or should I leave it? Thanks in advance for the help.

 

Look for codes first.

turn the key on but not start, off, on, off, on and read the odometer.

Report back with codes.

BTW Welcome! and good luck.

 

if y0ou get er up to say 25 mph, does the "problem" go away ????? if so, could be a grid heater issue, sapping the electrical system and making the truck seem sluggish. not sure where in the world you are located, but its a thought.

 

I don't want to be the grim reaper here.... but....

That is the exact problem I was having when I first got my truck, until it warmed up there was NO power. It would take forever to get it up to speed, I had to be sure there was enough cushion when I'd pull out into traffic. I'd compare it now to if I went straight from 2nd all the way into 5th and tried to accelerate, only that might be a little faster even!

Mine ended up being both a dead lift pump, AND injection pump, and it was probably the biggest lump in my throat feeling EVER .

Here is my thread:
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=173366
Look it over and see if it parallels your situation at all. I seriously hope yours ends up being something else, but it all sounds far to similar to me .

If you want to check it out go grab a fuel pressure gauge and check the pressure, if your lift pump is low on pressure get that replaced ASAP and then have a shop run some diagnostics on your injection pump also. Good luck with it all, I hope your wallet doesn't get hit as hard as mine did.

 

Just pulled codes. P 1693 and a P 0216. I guess I have to go find out what that means. Bad News!

 

P0216 Injection Timing Control Circuit Malfunction

 

First off - welcome to DTR! Just sorry it's this question that you are asking.

Here's something I searched for and found on another thread...wish it was better news:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cappykd

From everything I've read when you get the p0216 along with the p1693 thats a bad or failing VP-44

Actually, some of us on here avoid the 24V trucks due to these known issues. Too bad, since it's still a great truck!

 

I know, bad news! My next question is where is best to buy parts and get it fixed. I know of a good diesel shop to get the labor done but I would probably get a better deal on parts online, no? I would change them myself but don't feel confident or have the specialty tools to tackle timing on the injector pump. I would assume that it would make sense to change the lift pump at the same time, is it inside the fuel tank? Thanks.

 

Probably best overall to let a shop handle all of this if you don't feel confident. My sense is that most shops really don't like installing parts that the customer has purchased elsewhere - and they certanily will not warranty them. Generally it's going to make better $$$ sense to let a reputable palce perform the work & keep the recipts. That way if it goes out again, they may stand behind most of the cost. Be sure to ask about this. Good luck...

 

Look for a thread by Diesel-Dan. he did a video on swapping the pump out. Watch it and see if you can do it yourself.

 

The 1693 is just a code that tells you a code was/is there, it accompanies any code posted to the ECU. I had an overboost code and it also brought up the p1693.

I'd take it to a shop and have them run diagnostics on the IP, there have been people in the past that throw the death code and only end up replacing the lift pump (MUUUUCH cheaper), so it is definitely worth looking into before dropping the big $$$'s.

 

First I would replace the lift pump and the filter and see what you have. Also check the air filter.

 

Thanks for the advice, I have an appointment for the 18th to diagnose. Hope it's just the lift pump!

 

I hope it is as well but I just went through the P-0216 and it was the VP. My guess says LP, VP and your wallet about $2500 lighter, if done at a shop. I know after this money for the truck might be limited but you NEED a fuel pressure gauge plumbed into the cab so you can watch what's happening. Cheap insurance to not blow another VP.

Last thought, what's your mileage? My VP was just replaced under warranty with 82000 miles due to the wording in the manual. I was out of warranty on years but under on mileage (read page 12 section 2.6 of your warranty manual). Check out your warranty manual and search this site. If your under 136000 miles you can get Chrysler to pony up the $$$$, it just takes persistence.

Good luck

 

What Dodge Dealer did this for you?