24 Valve Engine and Drivetrain Discuss the 24 Valve engine and drivetrain here. No non-drivetrain discussions please. NO HIGH PERFORMANCE DISCUSSION!

Need Immediate HELP!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-08-2011, 07:44 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Ohio_Farmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Avon, Ohio
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Need Immediate HELP!

My rear wheel bearing went out on the way to work this morning and locked the wheel. Freed it up and nursed it back home. Took out the axle to find the Nylock nut melted and the outer metal part of the bearings smashed up. I am working on it right now trying to get the outer bearing out of the hub! The heat somehow seized it to the axle tube.

My question is, is there a way to get the bearing out by heating it and banging on the hub or any other way without ruining the axle tube and threads.

Please help, I don't want to have to call a flatbed to have the shop screw me!
Thanks in advance. I will check the post to see if anyone replies.
Old 08-08-2011, 07:51 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
j-fox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,541
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
If it welded it to the hub most likely your going to replace it.
It may help to strike it with a cold chisel. I had one on a old dodge that the bearing failed. It welded the AXLE to the tube before I got it stopped. Had to have the tube repaired.
Old 08-08-2011, 08:08 AM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Ohio_Farmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Avon, Ohio
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by j-fox
If it welded it to the hub most likely your going to replace it.
It may help to strike it with a cold chisel. I had one on a old dodge that the bearing failed. It welded the AXLE to the tube before I got it stopped. Had to have the tube repaired.
Yes, I am going to replace both bearing and the races and the wheel seal. I just can't get the outer bearing out of the hub. So far that is the problem I am having. I got my axle out and don't see nay damage to it. Do you know if there is any type of puller that I could use to pull the hub off while pushing against the end of the axle tube, since the bearing is seized in the hub on the axle tube?
Old 08-08-2011, 08:21 AM
  #4  
Administrator / Free Time Specialist
 
Totallyrad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Posts: 7,707
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 8 Posts
I haven't seen a puller like that. Where are you located? Are you close to Steubenville or Carrollton?
Old 08-08-2011, 09:05 AM
  #5  
Administrator
 
chaikwa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan
Posts: 2,331
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Do you have heat? Heat the bearing to expand it or carefully slice part of it without scarring up the spindle.
Old 08-08-2011, 10:58 AM
  #6  
Registered User
 
torquefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 4,449
Received 44 Likes on 39 Posts
A slide hammer may help, if you can find an attachment to bolt it to the hub. Otherwise, as mentioned, I would use a die grinder and carefully slice through the bearing race, then tap it away with a chisel.

Also have a good look at the hub. If the outer race spun in the bore, the hub may be trash. Good luck.
Old 08-08-2011, 11:08 AM
  #7  
Registered User
 
Sandaholic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 350
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by torquefan
A slide hammer may help, if you can find an attachment to bolt it to the hub. Otherwise, as mentioned, I would use a die grinder and carefully slice through the bearing race, then tap it away with a chisel.

Also have a good look at the hub. If the outer race spun in the bore, the hub may be trash. Good luck.
X2. Slidehammer was the first tool that came to mind.
Old 08-08-2011, 11:52 AM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Ohio_Farmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Avon, Ohio
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks everyone for your responses, I got the hub & bearing off, Finally!
I used a Dremel tool to grind the sleeve of the bearing to get the roller bearings out one by one, then after that I pulled on the hub like a slide hammer and everything came out the back of the hub. I used a grinder to cut off the rest of the bearing sleeve.
I knew I should have changed the bearings when I changed the wheel seal!. Part of the bearing sleeve metal is still on the axle tube, but I will grind it down some and the new bearing should slide right on.
Now all I need to replace is the inner and outer bearings, outer race and another wheel seal, add some fluid and I'll be back on the road in no time!
Thanks again!, Brandon
Old 08-08-2011, 02:26 PM
  #9  
Administrator
 
chaikwa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan
Posts: 2,331
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
If you change a bearing, change the corresponding race. They're kind of a set. Don't forget to put a little rear end oil in the cavity of the hub when you put it all back together. Maybe, (just a thought here), you forgot to do that when you replaced the seal and the bearing got no lube? That would definitely make a bearing fail!
Old 08-09-2011, 08:03 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
nothingbutdarts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 398
Received 24 Likes on 22 Posts
Originally Posted by chaikwa
Don't forget to put a little rear end oil in the cavity of the hub when you put it all back together. Maybe, (just a thought here), you forgot to do that when you replaced the seal and the bearing got no lube? That would definitely make a bearing fail!

X2

At work when I work on 18 wheelers, after having any hub off and cleaning it, once together I jack up each wheel about 3"-6" for about 5 minutes a side. This lets needed lubrication oil into each hub so as not to burn up a bearing.
Old 08-09-2011, 10:33 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
torquefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Posts: 4,449
Received 44 Likes on 39 Posts
The setup procedure on the spindle nut is very critical too. Basically, you want to tighten the nut until all the end play is gone, then add just a slight amount of preload. Leaving that nut too tight will burn up those bearings very quickly.
Old 08-10-2011, 02:22 PM
  #12  
Registered User
 
Hintonc393's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Knoxville TN ya'll
Posts: 269
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The only way to set up a hub is to use a dial indicator, big trucks and coaches take .001-.005 to last any time at all. The closer to .001 you are the better. That is end play not preload. A small amount of preload is best but because it is hard to determine how much preload you have, the heavy duty industry has gone to .001-.005. That will work for all opposed tapered roller bearings.
Old 08-11-2011, 09:43 AM
  #13  
Registered User
 
johnh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: lyman, utah
Posts: 4,053
Likes: 0
Received 28 Likes on 26 Posts
Originally Posted by chaikwa
If you change a bearing, change the corresponding race. They're kind of a set. Don't forget to put a little rear end oil in the cavity of the hub when you put it all back together. Maybe, (just a thought here), you forgot to do that when you replaced the seal and the bearing got no lube? That would definitely make a bearing fail!
pack the wheel bearing with grease, some people will say you shouldn't because of the different kinds of grease.....but iv'e done rear wheel bearings that way for years with no comebacks
Old 08-14-2011, 08:19 PM
  #14  
Registered User
 
linn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Plainwell Mi
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would like to turn my daytime running lights off on my 2007 dodge ram mega cab
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
stealman1
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
9
01-16-2012 10:42 AM
Chrisreyn
Other
15
12-20-2009 08:51 AM
getblown5.9
HELP!
4
03-26-2006 08:34 PM



Quick Reply: Need Immediate HELP!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:21 PM.