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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Lo ngest running VP44???

Hey,
What's the most mileage anyone has gotten out of a VP44.
I'm guessing the average is 100K, but I'd sure like to know what everyone else thinks.


My first one died around 70K, and I've ran lucas in it since, so I'm thinking the second one should go a lot longer.

one more thought. About 2 or 3 years ago, Bosch had a meeting in San Francisco (I think???if my memory aint shot). Someone posted the meeting on the web and they had said forthright in writing that when the vp44 was designed they did NOT take into account that someone (like califiornia??and then the rest of the us) was going to take the sulphur out of diesel.

They had also posted metallurgy pictures of the walls of a VP44 enlarged something like 20,000X. Like they always do in mettalurgy to see what's really going on with the metal surface.

They had posted two pictures of the wall of a VP44. ONE with a zillion hours on it with low sulphur diesel, and one with a zillion hours on it with the same thing only with Stanadyne added. When I saw the difference between those two pictures I **** hear had a heart attack. WOW?
Now, later on, that information has mysteriously disappeared from the web. I can't find it anywhere. When my friend told me he was not going to put addative in his '01...his reason was that dodge told him that what I told him was a pile of crap, and I went to print out the meeting minutes, (or whatever that was that was on the web... maybe TDR had it or something) I could not find it anywhere.

Now my friend's VP44 is dying, He has to crank it about 30 to 60 seconds to start it unless he just shut it off. And it's getting worse. I told him there was a few small things it could be, but 150K with no addative and california diesel was not going to help his pump much. He has one of those ones with the 6 spd. pretty cool truck...and doesn't want to find out it "may" be a big repair bill. I've offered to read his codes for him with my reader but so far he hasn't found time to drop by.

Anyway, enough said.

One more thing. I have NEVER been able to find stanadyne here in the l.a. area. The cummins shop I go to sells Lucas, so I use it. The man at the dodge dealership told my friend also that he personally had a VP44 of his own that went bad and he was using Stanadyne in it the whole time. I'm guessing that's a pile of crap due to the fact that he still hasn't came up with a place for me to go buy stanadyne (he had to get it somewhere???). So I can only assume he was lying trying to get my friend past the 100K mark,,....which he succedded in doing quite nicely.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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My Vp (RIP) died @ 55k. You can get Stanadyne @ a Vw dealership, ask for the diesel fuel treatment, and I've seen it at GM dealerships, and OTR truck repair shops on there parts shelves.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Mine died at 68K.


Geico has his original at something like 170K??

I don't think there is a fair way to approach which additive does what and when.

I use PS now, but never used any on the original pump.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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I made it to 140,000mi give or take a few and that was with almost 3000mi on a dead lift pump.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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Both mine were electronic failures so the lubes I used did nothing. 60k and then the next one (brand new 027 pump) went 8k so I dont think it matters. You get luck on some of them.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Warrenty replacement VP at 44k for the PO now mines going south at 146K
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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My last truck had 108,000 miles on it with the original injection pump and it was still going strong when it wrecked.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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178k miles till my lift pump ate its pre filter screen.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AggiePhil
My last truck had 108,000 miles on it with the original injection pump and it was still going strong when it wrecked.
Mmm, yeah. While your getting the rest of your stuff off of it Grab that!
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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I got 218k out of my original and my replacement lasted less then 2k miles...I have a hot rod pump now hoping it will last
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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126K on origional pump and still ticking. 16oz of valvoline 2 cycle Marine oil per tank.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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I just bought mine last month. The original owner put 195,000 with the original lift pump and VP44. The only thing he ever did to it is replace the head at 110,000 for what he described as dropping a valve. Runs perfect for me, but I will install a fuel preasure guage and warning light as soon as I get back home. I will also be buying a lift pump relocate kit, a spare pump, and be prepareing for the inevitable VP44 failure.

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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by P.J
Mine died at 68K.


Geico has his original at something like 170K??

I don't think there is a fair way to approach which additive does what and when.

I use PS now, but never used any on the original pump.
185,000 miles baby and still running the doors off Ferds!.... ....Well, Pintos anyway.

PS & a little CLEAN motor oil when I find it.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Geico266
185K baby and still running the doors off Ferds! Well, Pintos anyway. hehehe
At this point it's like "The finaaaaal Countdown.......", I can't type the music that goes anlong with it, ya'll know it.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by P.J
At this point it's like "The finaaaaal Countdown.......", I can't type the music that goes anlong with it, ya'll know it.
Someone ( I know it was P.J.) made me a bet that it wouldn't go 200K. I'm gonna collect even if I got to push it around!
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