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Old 08-06-2005, 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by gerry
Isn't there a $75 warranty transfer charge.. I was reading something about that in my warranty manual...
Possibly, but I've never heard of them denigh a warranty claim over it.
Old 08-06-2005, 09:15 PM
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I like the idea of the pump being in the tank, but I don't like the idea of low PSI. I think I'll go with FASS II. Same price.
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Its done, they are in my gallery, the "bypass" is what goes in plae of the original LP.
Old 08-07-2005, 12:19 AM
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see that one thing that pisses me off there are 6 pumps recorded on my VIN for being replaced and they still told me today that they are not entitled to change it over since i have a F.A.S.S 2 he told me that it voids all warranty with the fuel system ......plus i think they should give us a credit or something for having to switch to a aftermarket fuel system to continue driving the 2nd gen's
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Originally posted by Geico266
Yes, the warranty goes with the truck, but I believe there is a 5 year limit also.
Thanks Geico, Mr Flash's truck is a 2001 with 81,000 mi. so we need to check into that.
Old 08-07-2005, 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by Flashdancr
Thanks Geico, Mr Flash's truck is a 2001 with 81,000 mi. so we need to check into that.
They go buy "In Service" date. Mine is also a 2001 (99500ish miles)and it was put into service in 2000, so I'm over the 5yr mark. When I went to the dealer I was over by like 2 months. They did try to get it to go through but Dodge said no. Of they would why would they say anything else!!!
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Originally posted by J BODY
Interesting how many cuss Dodge about the lift pump woes, when it was mother Cummins who provided the fuel system with the engine package. That very same lift pump is on alot of different types of vehicles. Motorhomes, big Ford trucks (650 I believe), local Snap On mans tool rig, my city's street sweepers......and they all have the same prob.
actually, mother cummins did not provide the fuel system...it was mother dodge who asked for the fuelsystem to be set up this way.....all ISB 24v's in buses use the pump in the tank.
Old 08-07-2005, 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by ramtd02
actually, mother cummins did not provide the fuel system...it was mother dodge who asked for the fuelsystem to be set up this way.....all ISB 24v's in buses use the pump in the tank.
Not True... My Freightliner FL60 has the same lift pump system.. AND YES it keeps going out...
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Originally posted by 2500CTD
They go buy "In Service" date. Mine is also a 2001 (99500ish miles)and it was put into service in 2000, so I'm over the 5yr mark. When I went to the dealer I was over by like 2 months. They did try to get it to go through but Dodge said no. Of they would why would they say anything else!!!
I had better find out soon!
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Great news for me my LP is on its way out....very slowly. I will find out if my out of date dealer knows about the change over yet.
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Well, with the only feedback as to the performance of the new in-tank LP is that it only pumps out 8 psi at idle, I think I'll pass on that set up. Since all pressure is is the measured resistance to flow, and if the factory 5/16" fuel ines remain the same size with the new in-tank LP, fuel flow cannot be increased without a pressure increase.....and if the pressure has dropped, so too, has the flow......not good....it means the new in-tank LP is flowing less fuel than the stock Carter.
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What's the best way to diagnose a LP going out if your do not have a FP gauge?
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Originally posted by CTD NUT
Well, with the only feedback as to the performance of the new in-tank LP is that it only pumps out 8 psi at idle, I think I'll pass on that set up. Since all pressure is is the measured resistance to flow, and if the factory 5/16" fuel ines remain the same size with the new in-tank LP, fuel flow cannot be increased without a pressure increase.....and if the pressure has dropped, so too, has the flow......not good....it means the new in-tank LP is flowing less fuel than the stock Carter.
Yeah, thats kinda what I was thinking too. I would think (?) that this set-up will not bode well for guys with modified trucks ( i.e. bigger injectors, fueling boxes, etc ).

What do you guys think ?
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Volume is important, but so is psi AT the same time.

A couple of us over on TDR are gathering data on the VP operating temp and cooling. I had a stock lp and 140*+ VP temps (DC just replaced my VP 0216 codes generated by excessive heat). Went to a RASP (or whatever other flavor you want, FASS etc) that does 15psi (VP bypass cracked open for flow) and the VP operating temps dropped 20* - 30*.

There is something to be said for volume BUT ALSO psi AT the same time.

Someone here should measure the VP temps (fuel temp in, electronics bay, body, return flow, mileage, OAT, tank level, unloaded / loaded and what #, flat / mtns) , get the in tank pump, measure the VP temps again.

GREAT if the in tank feeds the VP properly!, but low psi is a VP killer for sure.

Bob Weis
Old 08-08-2005, 05:16 PM
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Why can't you use the in-tank LP to feed the stock Carter?? Would that help anything at all?

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