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PLEASE ignore!!!!

 

Yes, especially since Cummins don't have glow plugs.

They use an electric Grid Heater in the intake tract.

Ether sitting in the intake from the turbo through the intercooler into the head + Red hot heater element = more excitement than you were looking for.

 

The guy may know quite a bit about old Detroit Diesels and such, but I doubt he knows anything about the ISB engines. Except how to spell ISB. Say no to ether on these engines.

 

These diesels start at -20 really good. Why do you want to use ether?

 

In case you wanted to explode the engine and launch the head across the street!! I saw a guy put ether in a big Cat diesel, it was UGLY!!! Works great on a 2-cycle Detroit!!!
Tom

 

I use ether on the big semi diesels all the time. They do NOT have any type of glow plug or intake air heater system. They also do not have the strict emmissions standards that pickups have. Anything with a pre heater or glow plug system can NOT have either to start them.

 

All THE TIME?
Seems I was under the impression either is a very last resort! Either has a much higher flash temp than fuel added to the fact your compression rings will make a compression or two with nearly NO cylinder lube once the either washed and burned it outa there! Either makes a wonderfull degreaser, I use it for that all the time. I have a 7.3 with about 225psi in the jugs due to the fact the last owner thought it was OK to spray instead of fixing the glow plugs!

 

Either use is quite common on rigs without preheat. Most of my JD tractors have a place to mount the either can on the engine with a pushbutton on the dash to activate it. Either won't hurt the engine at all.

 

Also great for putting tires on the bead in a pinch. Gotta be careful with how much you put in though, better off not having enough a couple times than having too much once.

 

IA James, I hope that your method of bead seating does not include a Bic lighter or kitchen match. Talking about ruining your day if ya had just a touch too much in the hole when ya light it off.


Garyisgonnagostandbehindtheconcretewallnow

 

Like I said, a little dab will do ya.

 

T H A T 'S an understatement!!!
As a greenhorn back in '76, three of us maintenance newbies were told we HAD to get a small Drott Carrydeck crane started one very frosty morning in S Texas. The dirty SAE 40 diesel lubeoil on a cold morn was like Vaseline. Batteries just couldn't spin it fast enough even with jumpercables on a PU for help. We were freezing our butts off out there trying to get that thing running.
The boss told to use some ether. "Okay..."
Engine was buried in the frame of the little crane so we couldn't easily get directly to the air intake manifold.
SO, we pulled the huge air filter out and squirted a llittle and cranked. Gee! If a little does a little good,... We proceeded to squirt a little TOO much ether in the intake piping. The little engine had glow plugs but it turned out it ALSO had a glow coil in the intake manifold...

I think the tinitis I have now is possibly from that explosion.
We never did get it started that morning... No one had the guts to risk another explosion and fire like that. Plus we didn't want to crawl in that compartment to replace the air inlet piping and hose joints that blew loose.

K.

 

THAT explains a lot................

 

Not enough a couple times MAY be ok, but not enough 3 times will usually end up too much!!! I tried that just like that and on the third try it went off alright. Went up about 8 feet in the air twirling end over end and then down to the ground. Had a sidewall problem, a rip about 14 inches long. I haven't tried that trick since!!! I now have a bead blaster that is much quicker and safer.

 

Been there seen that. Watched them put one of the supersized tires back on Gravedigger at a show one evening. Better them than me.