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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BobQ
I don't want to cause any trouble here, but I put in a vulcane big line kit with the pump back near the tank. I can't get the psi to go below 14 climbing a hill with the thing towing and floored.

I thought the walpro was only a 65 gph pump? the carter is 100gph. Any thoughts?

Bob
I don't mind causing trouble, I too have a Vulcan kit with a carter pump that pushes 15 idle, 14-14.5 cruise and no less than about 13 WOT.

Longevity is kinda the key here. I haven't heard much on the life span of these Walbro pumps, most of us have had first hand experience with how long a OE pump can or can't last.
Once my pump starts to act up (when, not if) I will explore my options.
If I pumped anywhere near 40GPH I'd be broke in a week anyway.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Geico266
Have you come up with a concise parts list? I would like to look into it, but don't have time to read 10,000 posts.
I can give whomever an exact parts list.

This is the parts list for MY project:
http://xj.cdevco.net/auto/fuelsystem

I would be happy to tell anyone EXACTLY what parts they need to do it however you end up doing it (Keeping stock pump location but replacing banjo fittings... moving the pump but keeping stock fuel canister, etc).

The parts are only going to vary a little bit. I would also need to know what year the fuel canister switched over? I threw away my old fuel canister so I don't know exactly what it looks like (i.e. where is the input from the tank and where is the output to the vp44?)

For somewhere around $200 you can get a new lift pump, all new fittings and all fuel lines.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Patrick Campbell....you da man!

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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Motorpool, I am starting to feel the same way. I have a 04 Cummins 2500 Now it has 80K km. on it. I had to replace the front U joints (under warranty) and yesterday it died on me. Throttle stopped working and she stalled. Started again but as soon as I gave gas it stalled and never started again. Roadside assistance towed it to the dealer. I am awaiting diagnostics. Just **ssed off right now. What kind of stuff are they building? The rubber door seals on both sides were recalled as they would tear from the door opening and closing. I paid 60K Canadian bucks for this puppy. Anyone I meet with a TOYOTA Truck has no compalints.

Mannie

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I think many of us have more than enough to start a class action suit against Dodge. Mine has been screwed up since the first month I bought it new. I just had a rebuilt IP and a LP and fuel filter put on mine two months ago and one month ago it started quitting, loosing throttle. I had it checked for codes at Auto Zone and it showed that the IP had internal timing malfunction. I took it back to the shop (under warranty mind you) yesterday and told them what I knew at which the manager said "We will probably just put you another pump on it" I left and by the time I got back home they called and said my truck was ready and the bill was $525.00. They put a APPS on it and said it is fixed. Those two trips set me back $2300.00 dollars. Where is the end to this nonsense? This truck only has 106,000 miles on it and I'm on the third IP. I have a Freightliner that has 450,000 miles and it has NEVER been in the shop for ANYthing major at all. Dodge is junk.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Patrick Cambell,
Have you used the carter pump before from "SUMMIT"? I went thru 3 before I found one that would work right out of the box and that one only lasted about 3 months. I have much better reliability from the "NAPA" carter pump. These are all npt pumps and I have no banjo's.
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Patrick Cambell,
Have you used the carter pump before from "SUMMIT"? I went thru 3 before I found one that would work right out of the box and that one only lasted about 3 months. I have much better reliability from the "NAPA" carter pump. These are all npt pumps and I have no banjo's.
Nice job on the part list
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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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I could be all wet here, but I think you need the 100GPH pump in order to supply the motor, and still have enough left over to run through the pump for cooling and lubrication, and maintain 10psi!

Any thoughts?

Bob
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Copenhagenjunkie
Patrick Cambell,
Have you used the carter pump before from "SUMMIT"? I went thru 3 before I found one that would work right out of the box and that one only lasted about 3 months. I have much better reliability from the "NAPA" carter pump. These are all npt pumps and I have no banjo's.
My 4601HP Carter from Summit is 17 months old with no trouble.
When I fuel up, I set the nozzle on the slowest notch to try to keep from pulling up water & junk from the underground tanks and let the station's filters do their job...the windshield always needs cleaning anyway.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BobQ
I could be all wet here, but I think you need the 100GPH pump in order to supply the motor, and still have enough left over to run through the pump for cooling and lubrication, and maintain 10psi!

Any thoughts?

Bob
I agree, lubing and cooling the VP has to be considered. It's easy to cool it in the winter but the heat last summer had many, including me, doing temperature checks on our VP's either by hand or with infared temp devices.
Summer will be here before you know it.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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That's all well and good, but there have been many (including mine) that died in the past 3 weeks. It's unusually warm, but definitely not hot this time of year.
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