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Okay guys, I talk with my attorney today and he says I have a good claim against DC. If there are any other's here in NC or surrounding areas that have the same issues with DC and would like to talk with this attorney, you can PM me and I'll give you his name and number.
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This is a great thread...I just go my truck a month ago and have since been hearing the horror VP44 stories
! I wanted to ask a few things....
I just got a FASS 150/95 - 1008 for my '01, it's a low mile truck (< 30K) but I wanted to adress this VP44 issue straight away. Will this cure the VP44 failure issue? OR will my VP44 still be at risk of failure even with the FASS 150/95 unit?
IF the FASS doesn't remedy this issue permanently can I modify the engine to run on a different pump, like the bulletproof (from what I hear) P7100 from the 12V engines....or are there any other options to cure or fix this VP44 issue altogether & once and for all?
This truck is in excellent shape and it has low miles so I plan on keeping it for a very very long time (and I want it to be stone cold reliable and well running) and modifying it for better fuel mileage, everyday relaibility and usage (long commutes & daily driven), and maybe even a slight/mild level power increase to make it more peppy for around town driving, wake it up a bit so to speak.
! I wanted to ask a few things....I just got a FASS 150/95 - 1008 for my '01, it's a low mile truck (< 30K) but I wanted to adress this VP44 issue straight away. Will this cure the VP44 failure issue? OR will my VP44 still be at risk of failure even with the FASS 150/95 unit?
IF the FASS doesn't remedy this issue permanently can I modify the engine to run on a different pump, like the bulletproof (from what I hear) P7100 from the 12V engines....or are there any other options to cure or fix this VP44 issue altogether & once and for all?
This truck is in excellent shape and it has low miles so I plan on keeping it for a very very long time (and I want it to be stone cold reliable and well running) and modifying it for better fuel mileage, everyday relaibility and usage (long commutes & daily driven), and maybe even a slight/mild level power increase to make it more peppy for around town driving, wake it up a bit so to speak.
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FWIW guys,
For evey person on these forums there are probably 1000s of happy campers out there running along with very few problems. Do lift pumps fail? Yes sometimes they do. So do automotive fuel pumps and IPs and supply pumps for other diesels. The guy in the next office from mine had a IP failure in his powerstroke with less miles than are on my 98 Dodge. I did have an IP (VP44) failure on mine caused by the lift pump at 250K miles. The best thing you can do if you have a VP44 truck is get a low pressure light. Changing your fuel filter regularly won't hurt either. Don't think that Dodge is the only company that has injector pump problems. If I get another 250K efore the next one I'm OK with it. If it fails next week then I'll get back to ya.
For evey person on these forums there are probably 1000s of happy campers out there running along with very few problems. Do lift pumps fail? Yes sometimes they do. So do automotive fuel pumps and IPs and supply pumps for other diesels. The guy in the next office from mine had a IP failure in his powerstroke with less miles than are on my 98 Dodge. I did have an IP (VP44) failure on mine caused by the lift pump at 250K miles. The best thing you can do if you have a VP44 truck is get a low pressure light. Changing your fuel filter regularly won't hurt either. Don't think that Dodge is the only company that has injector pump problems. If I get another 250K efore the next one I'm OK with it. If it fails next week then I'll get back to ya.
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FWIW guys,
For evey person on these forums there are probably 1000s of happy campers out there running along with very few problems. Do lift pumps fail? Yes sometimes they do. So do automotive fuel pumps and IPs and supply pumps for other diesels. The guy in the next office from mine had a IP failure in his powerstroke with less miles than are on my 98 Dodge. I did have an IP (VP44) failure on mine caused by the lift pump at 250K miles. The best thing you can do if you have a VP44 truck is get a low pressure light. Changing your fuel filter regularly won't hurt either. Don't think that Dodge is the only company that has injector pump problems. If I get another 250K efore the next one I'm OK with it. If it fails next week then I'll get back to ya.
For evey person on these forums there are probably 1000s of happy campers out there running along with very few problems. Do lift pumps fail? Yes sometimes they do. So do automotive fuel pumps and IPs and supply pumps for other diesels. The guy in the next office from mine had a IP failure in his powerstroke with less miles than are on my 98 Dodge. I did have an IP (VP44) failure on mine caused by the lift pump at 250K miles. The best thing you can do if you have a VP44 truck is get a low pressure light. Changing your fuel filter regularly won't hurt either. Don't think that Dodge is the only company that has injector pump problems. If I get another 250K efore the next one I'm OK with it. If it fails next week then I'll get back to ya.
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Sunir -
My research here and on TDR has found that there really isn't a silver bullet to help the VP stay alive. FASS will help. But it is not the end-all be-all solution. This isn't a knock against FASS. FASS will help you from having to replace the stock LP that has a tendency to fail. Good fuel supply really seems to help.
However, guys still have VPs fail with good fuel supply. If you look at the VP44 replacement video on this site, the truck being worked on had a FASS already. My current truck's VP is going out again and I have had solid 12 psi at idle from the OEM system.
P-Pump trucks just don't fail. If you want to never worry about the VP again, then I guess P7100 is what you want. I believe you will sacrifice some driveability compared to the VP. I believe the P-pump is a very expensive conversion, too.
Take all of this with a grain of salt, I am by no means an expert.
My research here and on TDR has found that there really isn't a silver bullet to help the VP stay alive. FASS will help. But it is not the end-all be-all solution. This isn't a knock against FASS. FASS will help you from having to replace the stock LP that has a tendency to fail. Good fuel supply really seems to help.
However, guys still have VPs fail with good fuel supply. If you look at the VP44 replacement video on this site, the truck being worked on had a FASS already. My current truck's VP is going out again and I have had solid 12 psi at idle from the OEM system.
P-Pump trucks just don't fail. If you want to never worry about the VP again, then I guess P7100 is what you want. I believe you will sacrifice some driveability compared to the VP. I believe the P-pump is a very expensive conversion, too.
Take all of this with a grain of salt, I am by no means an expert.
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Sunir -
My research here and on TDR has found that there really isn't a silver bullet to help the VP stay alive. FASS will help. But it is not the end-all be-all solution. This isn't a knock against FASS. FASS will help you from having to replace the stock LP that has a tendency to fail. Good fuel supply really seems to help.
However, guys still have VPs fail with good fuel supply. If you look at the VP44 replacement video on this site, the truck being worked on had a FASS already. My current truck's VP is going out again and I have had solid 12 psi at idle from the OEM system.
P-Pump trucks just don't fail. If you want to never worry about the VP again, then I guess P7100 is what you want. I believe you will sacrifice some driveability compared to the VP. I believe the P-pump is a very expensive conversion, too.
Take all of this with a grain of salt, I am by no means an expert.
My research here and on TDR has found that there really isn't a silver bullet to help the VP stay alive. FASS will help. But it is not the end-all be-all solution. This isn't a knock against FASS. FASS will help you from having to replace the stock LP that has a tendency to fail. Good fuel supply really seems to help.
However, guys still have VPs fail with good fuel supply. If you look at the VP44 replacement video on this site, the truck being worked on had a FASS already. My current truck's VP is going out again and I have had solid 12 psi at idle from the OEM system.
P-Pump trucks just don't fail. If you want to never worry about the VP again, then I guess P7100 is what you want. I believe you will sacrifice some driveability compared to the VP. I believe the P-pump is a very expensive conversion, too.
Take all of this with a grain of salt, I am by no means an expert.
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From: Let'r Buck!
Sunir -
I have no practical experience with any P7100 conversion, only what I have read here, so again, take it with a grain of salt - I don't want you to think I am anything but an armchair sort of guy on here.
There are many threads here about how to do it, cost and etc. If you can't find some with the search let me know and I'll see what I can dig up. As you get more serious there are several vendors that you can talk to about their kits. I think Power by Poole and Performance Diesel Warehouse are a couple off the top of my head that could help. I am sure there are other great vendors with experience to help also.
As for driveablility, this is only my personal opinion. My buddy has a 98 12v and I have a 98.5 24v. At one time, we were both in the 400 RWHP range. I used his truck for over a week without driving my vehicle. I felt my truck was a little more street and driver friendly than his. I have read here that guys take some extra time getting the P7100 dialed in on a 24v. My buddy's truck had that mechanical feel to it that I have grown to like. I associate that 'feel' with not ever having to worry about a **** VP-44 again. This will be my last VP-44 truck.
FWIW,
Jason
I have no practical experience with any P7100 conversion, only what I have read here, so again, take it with a grain of salt - I don't want you to think I am anything but an armchair sort of guy on here.
There are many threads here about how to do it, cost and etc. If you can't find some with the search let me know and I'll see what I can dig up. As you get more serious there are several vendors that you can talk to about their kits. I think Power by Poole and Performance Diesel Warehouse are a couple off the top of my head that could help. I am sure there are other great vendors with experience to help also.
As for driveablility, this is only my personal opinion. My buddy has a 98 12v and I have a 98.5 24v. At one time, we were both in the 400 RWHP range. I used his truck for over a week without driving my vehicle. I felt my truck was a little more street and driver friendly than his. I have read here that guys take some extra time getting the P7100 dialed in on a 24v. My buddy's truck had that mechanical feel to it that I have grown to like. I associate that 'feel' with not ever having to worry about a **** VP-44 again. This will be my last VP-44 truck.
FWIW,
Jason
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File a complaint with your states Attorney General's office. The Washington State AG is waiting for Chrysler to answer their request for clarification of the Cummins Engine Warranty. Talked to AG office again this week. AG says that they are still waiting on Chrysler Customer Service to hear back from Chryslers legal team.
Remember the only place that the warranty exist is in the warranty booket that came with the truck. It says so on the first couple pages.
In one of my demand letters, I pointed out that if the warranty booket was in error, why in the last 5.5 years had they not issues a new corrected warranty booket.
They just stonewall!
I have only heard of two people that actually got their money back. But, I have not yet given up.
So we need more State AG's contacting Chrysler regarding what they wrote in the warranty booket.
They are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard spot, if you issue a correction, then they omit that we are currently covered by the Cummins engine warranty for 5 years or 100,000 miles, starting at the end of the basic 3/36 warranty.
In Washington State it is very easy to file a complaint with the AG office. If you file in Washington, reference my AG's complaint (BEL-269117). If we got a bunch of other complaints to Washington's AG, maybe they will turn the heat up on Chrysler.
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Remember the only place that the warranty exist is in the warranty booket that came with the truck. It says so on the first couple pages.
In one of my demand letters, I pointed out that if the warranty booket was in error, why in the last 5.5 years had they not issues a new corrected warranty booket.
They just stonewall!
I have only heard of two people that actually got their money back. But, I have not yet given up.
So we need more State AG's contacting Chrysler regarding what they wrote in the warranty booket.
They are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard spot, if you issue a correction, then they omit that we are currently covered by the Cummins engine warranty for 5 years or 100,000 miles, starting at the end of the basic 3/36 warranty.
In Washington State it is very easy to file a complaint with the AG office. If you file in Washington, reference my AG's complaint (BEL-269117). If we got a bunch of other complaints to Washington's AG, maybe they will turn the heat up on Chrysler.
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Fuel pressure don't over do it or to little , lube in the fuel { Stanidine} that's what i was told Tuesday at Diesel Injection of Greensboro when i picked up a rebuilt pump. There's got to be a inherent flaw in this injector system , I've had all kinds of diesel's and these are by-far the worst . Dodge will have to kiss my feet to buy one again .
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I bought my truck used a month or so ago from a dealer who got it on a trade in from a previous owner who barely drove the truck (had multiple vehicles and traded this one in on a new one)...I got it at 27K miles in great condition...it seems to run well...however it's surely out of warranty now since it's an '01...and it didn't come with the handbook or maual or anything. What can I do, if anything, to address this issue with Diamler Chrystler if anything? Please help...don't want to be struck with the VP failure out of the blue! FASS and FP guage is going on in the coming week or so...
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I bought my truck used a month or so ago from a dealer who got it on a trade in from a previous owner who barely drove the truck (had multiple vehicles and traded this one in on a new one)...I got it at 27K miles in great condition...it seems to run well...however it's surely out of warranty now since it's an '01...and it didn't come with the handbook or maual or anything. What can I do, if anything, to address this issue with Diamler Chrystler if anything? Please help...don't want to be struck with the VP failure out of the blue! FASS and FP guage is going on in the coming week or so...
If you have the VP44 with the brass bore, there is little you can do to save it. It is going to wear and fail sooner or later.
Here is a link to Warranty Bookets. http://www.dodge.com/crossbrand/warr...meplate=ram_hd
Also one to Thomas' great post of Cummins Engine Warranty.
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...-you-ride.html
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