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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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6-speed swap

would swaping in a NV5600/G56 trans. in place of my NV4500 be as simple as finding the parts from a truck with a 6-speed and swaping them over? or is there a lil more work involved... im guessing a lil more work on the G56 end being its from a 3rd gen. i have a '99 NV4500 BTW
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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They no longer make part for a NV5600
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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yeah, what he said... I would'nt try the nv5600 swap. They don't make them anymore. Just the case alone is worth $1,000 just because they are so scarce. Cost me almost $4,000 just to have mine rebuilt. And that was with me dropping the trans off to them.
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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what about a G56?
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Early small shaft DEA would swap right in, with new crossmember

Large shaft DEE requires new fywheel, clutch, pressure plate and crossmember

Both versions use unit-bellhousing - it's part of the transmission

NV4500 driveshaft is same, fits either way
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:38 PM
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so a full g56 (DEE) with the clutch, pressure plate and the bellhousing would bolt right up to the cummins with a flywheel and a new crossmember? what about the clutch mounting, is it the same as a NV4500?

also what is the difference between the early and late models?

srry for the questions im only familiar with the getrag
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Your clutch slave cyl will bolt right up to the NV5600 b\h - DEA has poor synchro lubrication and a 1.250" input shaft - DEE has 1.3750" input shaft, needing new flywheel, clutch and pressure plate, and the gears were modified for improved synchro lubrication - otherwise samo samo alla time same same, no sweat, GI.

It is a big trans, at over 300lbs (yours weighs 180lbs), and was designed for heavy towing - it is not a 6-sp racing trans, as in the Viper, and does not respond very well to speed shifting, if that is your intent - otherwise, I bought mine broke and rebuilt it, because I like rowing thru the gears - sounds like an 18-wheeler

BTW - you seriously need to upgrade your sig.............
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 06:29 AM
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Well I am in the middle of same upgrade too, nv4500 to nv5600

Ok, what about transfer case ? My nv5600 came with the newer 271 transfer case, will 3rd gen driveshaft fit my rear end ?
How about front driveshaft ?

BTW the NV5600 doesn't weight 300lbs, it weights 550lbs !!!!
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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NV5600 actual weight = 390lbs, 200lbs more than the NV4500 - NP271 weighs 125lbs - NV5600 + NP271 weighs ~525lbs, lubed up and ready to ride

Your '01 will have the correct crossmember, but you will need the transmission support specifically for the NV5600, due to the increased weight - it looks the same as the one for NV4500, but has different part number and paint splash - remember, you're piling 200lbs more on that piece of rubber, so install the correct mount to keep the assembly centered and prevent driveline vibration

NP271 fits both DEA and DEE NV5600 - the NV4500 driveshaft may fit, but if it doesn't fit, just the front section from the center carrier forward will be different - the rear section is same length

And, whatever you do, don't pour automatic transmission fluid in the NV5600, or it will quickly burn the needle bearings and synchros - ever see black needle bearings, discolored from intense high heat?

Requires shafts, gears, bearings, and synchros to make it right
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 10:27 AM
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You're right it is 390, not bad at all.

Where I can but Castrol 75w-85 cheaper than the dealer, they charge $ 22.00/quart here
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Old Jan 30, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Yeah, I see what you meant - went back and read my post - that's a typo - should read 390lbs

DCJ uses Texaco syn trans fluid - Pennzoil makes syn manual trans fluid, much cheaper - the spec'ed fluid is near identical to 5W-30 syn motor oil, just without the lifter detergents - I've been running 3qts Valvoline 5W-30 syn motor oil and 2qts Valvoline syn 75W-90 gear lube for near 2 years with no problems, incl 3 750mi trips, but have not towed with it - if you tow, might be safer running the Pennzoil stuff
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