24 Valve Engine and Drivetrain Discuss the 24 Valve engine and drivetrain here. No non-drivetrain discussions please. NO HIGH PERFORMANCE DISCUSSION!

3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 08:53 AM
  #1  
MoParr's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: NE, Maine
3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

Posted two messages earlier and had 0 replies. My truck quit <br>going down the road friday. Seems to be getting fuel but won't start. Anyone have any ideas?
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:01 AM
  #2  
chuck3's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 497
Likes: 0
From: West Jordan, UT
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

WOW lets see, could it be bad fuel or water, how about clogged fuel filter,How do you know your getting fuel, did you check with a press guage ? Could be injector pump, lift pump, crank sensor, the lists goes on. ???
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:15 AM
  #3  
MoParr's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: NE, Maine
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

Figured it was probably gelled since the temp was -20F.<br>The girlfriend was driving it home from work. She said she<br>let it warm up for a couple minutes before driving off.<br><br>I have change the fuel filter and added conditioner to the<br>filter housing and tank. Checked for fuel flow at the bleed<br>valves. The truck is setting out in the wind, so I brought a generator and plugged the block heater in for about 5 hours. Still no luck. <br><br>The truck has about 51,000 miles on it. I do not have gauges <br>on it yet. Anything I should look for?
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:41 AM
  #4  
chuck3's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 497
Likes: 0
From: West Jordan, UT
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

I really don't have any experence with lines gelling as I have allways used a fuel conditioner in mine. But if its most likely the line between the tank and lift pump, the filter housing has a heater in it. I would strongly reccomend a test press guage for checking fuel pressurer, as the 01 model has had the most failure rate of all. ???<br> Maybe someone that lives where its real cold can help you.
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:56 AM
  #5  
thatguy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Lynchburg, VA
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

If it was -20.. i would guess fuel gelling as the problem..<br><br>You can get an 'emergency degeller/dethawer' that you pour in the tank and it will thaw the fuel right out.. You will also have to get some in the fuel filter as well.. Never used it personally, but would be something to try..<br><br>Not sure of brand name.. but Tractor Supply has it in their catalog..
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:43 AM
  #6  
MoParr's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: NE, Maine
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

:-[ Woops! Guess I forgot to mention that I had fuel at <br>the bleed valves. The fuel in the filter canister looked fine too.<br>I also cracked a line after the injector pump and had fuel flow<br>when cranking the engine. Of course I have no idea what kind of pressure I am getting.<br><br>All this leads me to believe it may be the injector pump, Return line (I read something about that in another article).<br><br>Anyone have any insight or quick ways to check this?
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:55 AM
  #8  
MoParr's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: NE, Maine
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

The little woman clains she let it warm up for a couple minutes<br>before driving off. Then only got about 1/4 mile when it started bucking. She tried feathering the gas and changing gears to keep it going. But it died and won't start.
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:57 AM
  #9  
MoParr's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: NE, Maine
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

It also had over 3/4 tank of fuel. :'(
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 12:04 PM
  #10  
rich's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,308
Likes: 1
From: Kerrville eastern new mexico, west texas
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

if your gettin exhaust smoke here are some ideas lots of fault codes; air intake restriction; fuel pump overflow vale is malfunctioning; fuel heater is not working; ess or curcuit is not working;lift pump; fuel inlet resrtriction; injection pump died; no smoke = keyswitch lift pump; injector pump voltage supply circuit malfunctioning;fuses;lots of problems with the ECM The book list lots of different things need more info
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 02:09 PM
  #11  
Smokee's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 843
Likes: 0
From: London, ON
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

From the way that it stopped, it sure sounds like gelling. I have only had it happen two or three times, but sometimes it can be a bear to get it thawed. The last time, I had to put the truck in somewhere warm to thaw it.<br><br>Everytime my truck has gelled, it followed a trip home from the sunny south where I got non-winter fuel.<br><br>Are your heaters working?<br><br>I still think that it is a gelling problem. If it were a 12v, i would suggest bleeding at the injectors. I don't know about the 24v.<br><br>Get it warm. Good luck.<br>george
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:31 PM
  #12  
geer's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 222
Likes: 0
From: Gillette, Wy
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

I don't know alot but when I lost my injection pump it just quit. I had fuel in the filter,but nothing when you cracked an injector. <br> <br> Scooter
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:53 PM
  #13  
Roger rodbolt's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 91
Likes: 1
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

MoParr,<br>An easy check is to watch your tachometer while cranking the engine, it should rise and indicate cranking rpm. If it doesn't you have an electrical problem, crank/cam sensor etc., depending on engine model. If it indicates rpm while cranking, DISCONNECT your grid heaters!!! FIRST!!!, then shoot starting fluid in the disconnected air filter hose while a friend cranks the engine, go easy on the ether and the engine should start and run on the starting fluild. This will some times reprime a injector pump that is considered dead. At that point if the engine runs on the fluid, loosen #1 injector line and see if you have diesel fuel squirting while the engine cranks/runs on ether. Could be a half dozen fuel problems, you have to methodically check them out or use the process of elimination. HTH's, Larry<br>
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:43 AM
  #14  
BigBlue's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

I'd try and get it somewhere warm first and letting it sit for a while and warm up. If that doesn't work, then just start going through the list of things on here. I've never had experience with gelling since the coldest it get's hear in Texas is like 20 degree ABOVE 0.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 12:19 AM
  #15  
StakeMan's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,135
Likes: 0
Re:3Rd attemp! Anyone have any ideas?

Any codes?<br>
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RonP
3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007
6
May 30, 2010 12:21 PM
Blacksdieselhp
3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007
5
Jan 4, 2008 08:46 AM
rockittboy
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
1
Feb 25, 2007 08:37 PM
Mglass1045
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
17
Mar 21, 2006 11:24 PM
Dufrain
General Diesel Discussion
39
Apr 5, 2005 09:00 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:35 PM.