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Old May 1, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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What's it worth?

Well I've done everything suggested, and as far as I can tell , the injection pump is dead. This truck just got real uneconomical.

I believe I'm just going to sell out. I got several estimates. The least it will cost is $650 with nothing major wrong in the pump. But given the mileage, mods, and the gas that was run through it, I seriously doubt it to be on the low end. Its going to cost at least $1000 to fix. I could pull the pump myself and save a few hundred $$. After working so long on it last week, I have to many other responsabilities to fullfil. I'm really not interested in all the benefits of owning a diesel if it takes all the savings I have left to do it.
I'm not really left with a warm feeling about this truck. I had an aerostar van that was cheaper to work on and never broke down.

So what's it worth? Its got 3 month old tires E range, brand new monroe gas magnums all the way around, new center link, 2 new tire rod ends, I pulled 2 leaves out of the back. I spent $500 last saturday fixing the steering and ride. It rides real nice now. 2 brand new fuel pumps. Its got 250k, engine still starts, runs, and drives fine just no power. It'll need an alignment, some odds and eventually. Body is dinged, dented in a spots. Its just a good old work truck. A/C works fine.

Don't be afraid to hurt my feelings it really can't get any worse. I was thinking between 800-1500.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Sorry to hear about this. This can be a problem with 1st gens. Nickel and dime ya at times. I suggest take some time, some deep breaths, possibly let it sit for awhile, til you get more time to think, more money or whatever when you can dig deeper - IP.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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If you were closer I'd be out today to pick it up for that much.

But, do what Bill says, think about it. I hate to see people get rid of something on an impulse and regret it alittle later.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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I'm not impulsive by nature. But I can make a decision quick and I know the real value of thing, emotions aside. I know that I don't have the time, skills, and tools to deal with this. I know that I've spent all I can afford and that the math says sell. I know that it might be something inexpensive. But I have a family and business responsibility, this is a very bitter pill to swallow. My wife is due in 2 weeks and I have to prepare. So the truck will go. I'll be sad and you'll most likely see me down the road in an 89 lumina.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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I have the same issue with my wife's 93. The IP is definately dead. I am selling it after I replace the pump. I have not found a running 12 valve cummins junkyard or rebuilt for less than $3000.00 anywhere I looked.

I would sell this truck for that. But I will make sure the person buying it is buying ot for the motor as everthing else is going to edit. I could not in good conscience sell to someone without full disclosure.

The only other way I would keep it is if I could find another chassis dodge or Chevy to drop the cummins in. (My wife does not want me to get rid of this blood sucker). I have been told by mechanics that it wold be easy to drop a cummins into a 1 ton chevy and other mechanics have said it can't be done without extensive mods. Anyone hear different?

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Old May 1, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishbait
I have been told by mechanics that it wold be easy to drop a cummins into a 1 ton chevy and other mechanics have said it can't be done without extensive mods. Anyone hear different?
Seen it done on a couple of trucks, they drop right in on the ones I saw, sat in there quite nice infact. One had a getrag and the other has a turbo 400 with a gear vendors behind it.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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I read your other post about the IP. If I had a spare pump, I'd send it to you and let you pay for it after the truck proved itself , but that doesn't really do you any good.

My opinion is that it is worth spending the additional $1000. If you put a new IP on the truck, it should last another 250k if not more. What car are you going to be able to buy for $3000 that will do the same, get the same economy, and do all of the things that you bought the truck for in the first place? If you said that the frame was rusted through, or the rest of the truck were junk, I would have a different opinion. If you said you could afford a new car and were willing to pay for the privelege of a warranty and a couple hassle-free years, I would also have a different opinion.

For what it is worth -- I just wanted to give you a different argument.

No matter what, you have my sympathy.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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My finances will allow one more repair and thats it. I could do the IP and the have tranny issues and I would have no way to replace it.
I could get into a decent car for what I could sell for and put with the money for the IP. Its simple math. I just remove the emotion and past expendatures. Take the current value of the truck in running condition. Subtract the cost of the repairs. Then you have the present value. Take into account the market I'm in is unkind to diesels(KC metro area everything is a V10 around here). If I can get what its worth I'll be out and I don't have to worry about it anymore. Someday I can buy a play truck or a mustang and have fun again.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Alec
I read your other post about the IP. If I had a spare pump, I'd send it to you and let you pay for it after the truck proved itself , but that doesn't really do you any good.

My opinion is that it is worth spending the additional $1000. If you put a new IP on the truck, it should last another 250k if not more. What car are you going to be able to buy for $3000 that will do the same, get the same economy, and do all of the things that you bought the truck for in the first place? If you said that the frame was rusted through, or the rest of the truck were junk, I would have a different opinion. If you said you could afford a new car and were willing to pay for the privelege of a warranty and a couple hassle-free years, I would also have a different opinion.

For what it is worth -- I just wanted to give you a different argument.

No matter what, you have my sympathy.
I bought it 10/04 and its been pretty good. I've gotten good mileage and its been dependable. But I don't tow anymore, I don't drive much. I don't do the construction I used to do. I'll still have access to the f250 psd. I feel that I could get a good old sunfire, cavalier, or corolla and be better off.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Guys, if this thread turns into a truck auction it goes bye-bye.

My advice is along the same lines as Alec's. When I'm thinking about getting rid of a vehicle, I ask myself "Can I get a better car for what it will cost to fix this one?"

Bottom line:
If you're set on selling it, you will get way more for it running than dead.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Hey wanna, Its not my intention of turning this into a bidding thread. As of the moment I have a buyer if that changes I'll post in the for sale section

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Old May 1, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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Clint, it wasn't you I was warning.

I was referring to the vultures circling overhead...
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Old May 1, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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I know I feel em starring down at me. When you want out, You want out!

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Old May 1, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Now see what you made me do. That was just a little over the line, I think they'll do that without you asking.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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I think that you should re read all these guys thoughts and,... take 2 aspirin and call us(type)in the morning
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