The right cab bushings
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The right cab bushings
Well, after searching and being involved in a few discussions, many people were still unsure if the cab mounts would work even though their not listed for the newer up to 93 trucks.. Here are the ones I used and they worked awesome..
They are from energy suspension part # 5-4101G That is in black
#5-4101G For red
So hopefully this can get added to the sticky so it will solve much uncertainity for the future!!
They are from energy suspension part # 5-4101G That is in black
#5-4101G For red
So hopefully this can get added to the sticky so it will solve much uncertainity for the future!!
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I noticed that on my 93 I am fixing it has different mounting bolts then the donor 90 cab I am using for the floor. The 93 has bolts sticking down and a nut goes on the bottom. The 90 has a nut plate in the mount and a bolt goes up from bottom.
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Well, the bolts don't matter much, up down, it really don't matter.. Mine had the factory clips inside the cab support and I got lucky they backd right out.. But in a worse case scenario if they were all froze up, you could just break it out and drop a bolt in from the top and nut on the bottom, the bushings will work either way...
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I have been known ( when I was young ) to use hockey pucks with a hole drilled in them for mounts. I knew a guy that made his own body lift that way by stacking alot of pucks on top of each other. It worked good till he was plowing snow and his cab came forward and broke off his distributor.
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There is a parts-number section in the sticky/FAQs that you can post this in yourself.
I am assuming that since these are Energy Suspension bushings that they are urethane.
I have read several accounts of excessive noise and shock issues after replacing the stock bushings with the firmer urethanes; what is your impression of this ??
I think I prefer the urethane, but I don't want a road-wagon either.
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There is a parts-number section in the sticky/FAQs that you can post this in yourself.
I am assuming that since these are Energy Suspension bushings that they are urethane.
I have read several accounts of excessive noise and shock issues after replacing the stock bushings with the firmer urethanes; what is your impression of this ??
I think I prefer the urethane, but I don't want a road-wagon either.
I am assuming that since these are Energy Suspension bushings that they are urethane.
I have read several accounts of excessive noise and shock issues after replacing the stock bushings with the firmer urethanes; what is your impression of this ??
I think I prefer the urethane, but I don't want a road-wagon either.
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An Update!
Here's a good list of Energy Suspension items for Dodge trucks
W250 - 1993
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...+4WD+W250+1993
D250 - 1993
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...+2WD+D250+1993
Red Body Mounts:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-5-4101R/
W250 - 1993
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...+4WD+W250+1993
D250 - 1993
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...+2WD+D250+1993
Red Body Mounts:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-5-4101R/
Color
Energy Suspension makes parts in 2 colors. Red and Black.
How are these two colors different?
The only difference between the red and black parts is that most Black Energy Suspension parts are Graphite Impregnated. This serves to help self lubricate the bushings. The Red parts do not have this characteristic. Aside from the actual color and the lack of being Graphite Impregnated - the red parts are essentially the same as the black.
I thought that the RED parts were harder and more performance oriented?
This is a common misconception. The red parts have the same durometer (hardness) as the Black parts and differ only in their actual appearance (color) and the fact that they're NOT graphite impregnated like the Black parts.
Why do people buy the red parts when they're not Graphite Impregnated like the Black parts?
In the end this is really because some people simplylike the color Red more than Black.
I thought Energy Suspension Made parts in Yellow and Blue as well?
Unfortunately Energy Suspension stopped producing these colors a long time ago and they are no longer available on the market.
Copyright © 2004-2011 Diverse Suspension Technologies. All Rights Reserved.
Energy Suspension makes parts in 2 colors. Red and Black.
How are these two colors different?
The only difference between the red and black parts is that most Black Energy Suspension parts are Graphite Impregnated. This serves to help self lubricate the bushings. The Red parts do not have this characteristic. Aside from the actual color and the lack of being Graphite Impregnated - the red parts are essentially the same as the black.
I thought that the RED parts were harder and more performance oriented?
This is a common misconception. The red parts have the same durometer (hardness) as the Black parts and differ only in their actual appearance (color) and the fact that they're NOT graphite impregnated like the Black parts.
Why do people buy the red parts when they're not Graphite Impregnated like the Black parts?
In the end this is really because some people simplylike the color Red more than Black.
I thought Energy Suspension Made parts in Yellow and Blue as well?
Unfortunately Energy Suspension stopped producing these colors a long time ago and they are no longer available on the market.
Copyright © 2004-2011 Diverse Suspension Technologies. All Rights Reserved.
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There is a parts-number section in the sticky/FAQs that you can post this in yourself.
I am assuming that since these are Energy Suspension bushings that they are urethane.
I have read several accounts of excessive noise and shock issues after replacing the stock bushings with the firmer urethanes; what is your impression of this ??
I think I prefer the urethane, but I don't want a road-wagon either.
I am assuming that since these are Energy Suspension bushings that they are urethane.
I have read several accounts of excessive noise and shock issues after replacing the stock bushings with the firmer urethanes; what is your impression of this ??
I think I prefer the urethane, but I don't want a road-wagon either.
When I had my radiator out I was going to replace the bushings under the core support but after my Dodge dealer told me how much they were I decided not to replace them.
Urethane bushings would make my truck ride like an empty cement truck.
There must be other truck or car bushings that could be made to fit.
Why not pivot the front of the cab and have air bags under the rear.
Jim
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You would just have to work out the clearence problems with the front fenders as the cab pivots or build a small subframe and pivot the entire front end.
Just remember the wiring and brake lines would have to flex also.
Use something like these.
But don't forget to install some shocks of it will bounce you to death.
Jim
Just remember the wiring and brake lines would have to flex also.
Use something like these.
But don't forget to install some shocks of it will bounce you to death.
Jim
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For anyone considering a new set, I just ordered a set of the black bushings direct from Energy's site. They had the kit listed for $61. Summit wanted $64. I found it was cheaper from Energy after shipping and handling charges, $70 rather than Summit at $74.
And for clarification -
P/N 5-4101G is for the black
P/N 5-4101R is for the red
And for clarification -
P/N 5-4101G is for the black
P/N 5-4101R is for the red
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Jim, do you know the part number from dodge and what did they quote you?
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When I had my radiator out I was going to replace the bushings under the core support but after my Dodge dealer told me how much they were I decided not to replace them.
Urethane bushings would make my truck ride like an empty cement truck.
There must be other truck or car bushings that could be made to fit.
Why not pivot the front of the cab and have air bags under the rear.
Jim
When I had my radiator out I was going to replace the bushings under the core support but after my Dodge dealer told me how much they were I decided not to replace them.
Urethane bushings would make my truck ride like an empty cement truck.
There must be other truck or car bushings that could be made to fit.
Why not pivot the front of the cab and have air bags under the rear.
Jim