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Old 05-30-2010, 02:40 PM
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Non Ic setups with Bigger turbo/sticks??

I was wonderin if some of you Non Ic guys could post a few pics and your setups. I am working on a guys 89 and I put a Scheid Lighting turbo which is like a super B and some 60hp injectors. I was planning on making a new crossover pipe and all that. Just wondering if that will be enough to keep things under 1300. All he does is like racing light to light. Doesnt tow at all. And the best part is he is A 81 yr old Grandpa!! I was going to put a pwr stroke Ic in. But if I can keep it cool enough we are gonna skip the Ic. Thanks
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I think an intercooler would be necessary...
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Originally Posted by big stinky
I think an intercooler would be necessary...
hey-Hey!!!,
And it will give him some more power too...no downside save for work required and expense to him...
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I would think an IC woud be necessary also, but I don't know for sure. Running light to light may not give the engine enough time to get up to a meltdown temperature... although I guess it depends on how far it is between light sets! I wonder if pulltilbroke could chime in. I know he gave in to an IC, (I still get a kick out of reading his sig!) but he should be able to tell you what sort of temps he got up to when doing some serious work with his mill. Again, it was only a short time period so hard to gauge how much help his info would be.
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i run my truck hard!!! and i dont have any problems keeping my temps in control!!

this is my crossover and it helped with my egts huge!!!


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I ran POD's a 60mm upgrade, DennyT, The ussual pump mods a 2.5" crossover and some other stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting and could peg the 1600* pyro before I got into 5th on the street and pulling I could get the needle to the 8 o clock position.

I dont think you will be able to keep it below 1300 but I had mine super hot for short periods and have had the head off mine numerous times with the pistons looking new still.

This is what my setup looked like and ran like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeLIMloOpJM
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Dieseldawg, you're running an HE351 by the looks, right? I think that thing helps with EGT's more than a stocker. Which isn't to say the rest of your setup doesn't help! That's a nice x-over tube you've got rigged up. Much better than stock, Im sure.
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DIESELDAWG and PULLTILBROKE,

What material are the intake flange-plates and tubing made of in your cross-overs ??

One appears to be steel, while the other set-up appears to be aluminum.


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That's one clean engine you got there pulltilbroke, almost rivaling Jim Lane! Very nice, and thanks for the input. Did the IC help you out a lot when you dropped it in?
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BK, my setup was all steel. It is now on Papecats Crew and rbrettctd originaly built it and ran it on his truck.

KD93, my engine bay is not even in the same league as Jim Lanes truck his is much much cleaner. My motor doesn't look near as good as that pic now, Those pics were taken right after I painted the Valve covers and crossover.


Yes the intercooler helped a ton, I can still get it to 1600 but it take a heck of a lot longer to get it there, In a short burst it dropped egts about 300* at WOT, about 100-150 at cruiseing rpm and about 50-75 at idle.
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pulltilbroke, is your intake cover (on the manifold) flipped in your pictures? If so was it done so that the crossover tube lined up better with the turbo? Just got curious after I looked at it more closely.
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Yes it is, you also have to flip it when you run a 24v horn when you intercool it.
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Originally Posted by BearKiller
DIESELDAWG and PULLTILBROKE,

What material are the intake flange-plates and tubing made of in your cross-overs ??

One appears to be steel, while the other set-up appears to be aluminum.


Thanks.
mine is made from food grade stainless steel salvaged from a labatt brewery
it is literaly pipe that beer ran through!!! for years and years and years!!
the intake horn is 3/8 stainless plate that i sent to the water jet to be cut out then i tiged another piece of beer pipe in there!!
the beer pipe was all bolted together with a vband type flange (see pic)
and a huge 5" nut and bolt!!! i wish i could incorparate one of those stainless nuts somwhere in there!!!

heres the intake horn the vband like flange helped welding it together from the inside easy!!
i think it turned out pretty clean looking!!!
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Originally Posted by KD93
Dieseldawg, you're running an HE351 by the looks, right? I think that thing helps with EGT's more than a stocker. Which isn't to say the rest of your setup doesn't help! That's a nice x-over tube you've got rigged up. Much better than stock, Im sure.
yea its a 351 and yea im sure it does help alot!!
and yea the stock non ic x-over is like 1 1/4" square!! super restrictive!!!
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Thanks DIESELDAWG,

Your beer pipe is giving me some ideas.

There are several dairies in my area that have went broke and are dispersing.

All that stainless tubing gets sold at auction for less than scrapper price, as no one else is interested in going into the dairy business.


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